1 00:00:21,430 --> 00:00:04,020 [Music] 2 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:54,479 you 3 00:01:01,410 --> 00:00:58,049 join us as we explore these unsolved 4 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:01,420 pieces UFO incidents that baffle even 5 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:02,710 the US military 6 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:06,130 this is mech Maloney's military x-files 7 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:09,810 is macaroni 8 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:13,080 [Music] 9 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:14,850 well good evening welcome to Mack 10 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:16,530 mommy's mill tracks I'll show here on 11 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:18,720 the distant Thunder radio network this 12 00:01:23,150 --> 00:01:21,570 is in that moment we have very 13 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:23,160 interesting shoes for you tonight but 14 00:01:30,290 --> 00:01:27,540 before that let's introduce the Posse 15 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:30,300 with a capital P he's in the studio with 16 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:32,130 us tonight he's working on his fifth 17 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:34,880 straight appearance after a string of 18 18 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:37,770 the very famous Juan Juan is here hello 19 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:40,530 Mac how's it going tonight it's going 20 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:44,460 working on the streak and five I didn't 21 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:46,650 know that the Patriots actually dealt 22 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:49,350 morning clothes but you look like you're 23 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:50,580 been to a funeral 24 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:55,170 I feel really somber after really skiing 25 00:01:58,730 --> 00:01:55,800 yes I do 26 00:02:00,800 --> 00:01:58,740 all right I don't know what to say okay 27 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:00,810 there - and - but you never know right 28 00:02:04,790 --> 00:02:02,990 that's right I mean you can't blame 29 00:02:07,430 --> 00:02:04,800 Brady for this one 30 00:02:11,150 --> 00:02:07,440 yeah sure yeah why do we have to blame 31 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:11,160 Brady for anything but you know okay 32 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:13,710 yeah it's all I want it up with you know 33 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:14,970 they get the worth defense in the league 34 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:17,550 so you can only go up my friend it's 35 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:19,590 unbelievable it is unbelievable after 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:20,790 having the best defense in the league 37 00:02:24,170 --> 00:02:23,850 just a few months ago sudden they do the 38 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:24,180 worst 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:29,190 so they'll figure it out also on the 40 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:30,810 line with us are you in the disclosed 41 00:02:34,729 --> 00:02:32,940 location it's a it's they call them 42 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:34,739 cocoa on the streets but we know him as 43 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:36,930 commander Cobra where are you Cobra I'm 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:38,640 in the northern command bunker 45 00:02:43,550 --> 00:02:40,530 all right Dee at the compound Oh 46 00:02:45,380 --> 00:02:43,560 interesting okay that's all the flags in 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:45,390 the background there is it snowing up 48 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,170 there you know but it's frosting is that 49 00:02:53,090 --> 00:02:51,840 an inside joke no no no no I literally 50 00:02:54,740 --> 00:02:53,100 is frosting in the mornings we're 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:54,750 getting processed or is it filling if I 52 00:03:01,610 --> 00:02:56,810 do it kid 53 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:01,620 probably this cold up there okay it's 54 00:03:07,460 --> 00:03:06,209 been 40s around here in the morning I'm 55 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:07,470 a little bit higher on the elevation 56 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:12,920 [Laughter] 57 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:17,710 plot is legal in Maine well this is 58 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:19,750 interesting because this is that first 59 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:21,910 show since the live audience shows which 60 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:25,360 were broken into two pots so we had four 61 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:28,720 hours of fun four hours of fun and it's 62 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:30,790 taken us that long the great hover to 63 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:33,040 recover it was a great time you're 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:36,670 getting cut that running so anyway what 65 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:39,610 was interesting was I heard from a lot 66 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:42,760 of people who heard the first segment it 67 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:44,860 was amazing how many yes we had on we 68 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:46,660 have like more than 20 yes on which is 69 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:49,480 amazing I don't know her kept it all 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:52,120 squared away there howdy how did the 71 00:03:55,979 --> 00:03:53,890 exorcism at the station go for getting 72 00:03:57,449 --> 00:03:55,989 the ghosts of JFK to leave yeah it's 73 00:04:01,890 --> 00:03:57,459 gone I was up there today believing 74 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:01,900 everything's you are anyway that's real 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:03,520 insight type of what I think was 76 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:05,650 interesting was that one of the funniest 77 00:04:10,979 --> 00:04:08,200 part was as you said Cobra when we had 78 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:10,989 the ghost of JFK came in and bit his 79 00:04:16,020 --> 00:04:11,860 signature 80 00:04:19,650 --> 00:04:16,030 you know phrase we're almost trademarks 81 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:19,660 almost we're all the bride's okay and 82 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:21,700 everybody is laughing it's a moment of 83 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:23,350 hilarity but we didn't explain to the 84 00:04:26,969 --> 00:04:24,940 listening audience that he would stand 85 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:26,979 him in in a bedsheet as if he was a 86 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:29,110 ghost because he won well yeah that's 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:30,280 the only we could see him because he 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:32,410 doesn't make full apparition that's 89 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:35,650 reason why we got you see she so if you 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:38,320 know if you're wondering why we were all 91 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:39,970 kind of laughing like crazy that's why 92 00:04:44,130 --> 00:04:41,830 because the ghost of JFK came in wearing 93 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:44,140 a sheet and this movie out these days 94 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:47,440 right right now it's called ghost and it 95 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:50,470 has that Casey Affleck one of the worst 96 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:52,600 actors in the world he's in it and he 97 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:54,340 appears in the entire movie with with a 98 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,340 sheet on him he's a ghost that actually 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:04:58,720 looks like a ghost in a sheet like 100 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:03,370 Casper so that's where we got the that's 101 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:06,280 where we get the idea but for the radio 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:07,750 one is we should have mentioned that the 103 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:09,250 ghost JFK was actually wearing a sheet 104 00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:10,600 that's why we're laughing but other than 105 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:11,800 that but we're left because there are 106 00:05:19,230 --> 00:05:16,660 three sheets to the wind anyway one one 107 00:05:22,140 --> 00:05:19,240 puts the Navy terms in each metaphors 108 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:22,150 right into a play that's good that's 109 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:23,630 good that shows he's trying 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:25,790 shining wanna show some initiative did 111 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:27,410 you guys see mrs. Kolber just a sec ya 112 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:30,500 know what using a delivery oh he's 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:33,710 getting a breather kay rats or something 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:36,490 can you bring her back this is Cobra 115 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:39,770 this is Cobra it's been a year like that 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:41,750 comes back the boys would like you to 117 00:05:48,030 --> 00:05:45,410 say hello this is an event folks I think 118 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:48,040 she's just delivered an MRE ok alright 119 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:51,640 it's been since we've seen you 120 00:05:58,630 --> 00:05:54,230 mrs. Cobra you have to speak into the 121 00:06:00,610 --> 00:05:58,640 mic in UI hi boys hello mrs. Cobra 122 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:00,620 because the last time we saw you you 123 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:01,970 were in the you're up here at the 124 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:03,440 station and we were talking about the 125 00:06:06,910 --> 00:06:05,570 clowns and that was last October right 126 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Cobra that's correct 127 00:06:12,130 --> 00:06:10,370 all right so you've lived another year 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:12,140 with them you've made it through another 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:18,050 year with Cobra putting your ear up the 130 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:19,730 microphone Cobra must have taught how to 131 00:06:26,380 --> 00:06:22,970 do that well you can wave to the 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:26,390 audience yes thank you rubbin noses like 133 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:29,330 Eskimos yes right oh we see that do we 134 00:06:46,990 --> 00:06:42,190 want to see that before we go okay yes 135 00:06:49,860 --> 00:06:47,000 Wow we gotta do whole shoulder let's use 136 00:06:53,230 --> 00:06:49,870 again next time 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:53,240 all right where the nose goes here on in 138 00:06:59,290 --> 00:06:58,490 China when a trip to Cuba right so 139 00:07:03,430 --> 00:06:59,300 anyway okay 140 00:07:06,310 --> 00:07:03,440 is marijuana legal in Cuba mmm 141 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:06,320 good question I don't know Juan one was 142 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:09,680 down there one one is it wasn't in the 143 00:07:14,470 --> 00:07:13,010 part that one one and I wrote the 1969 I 144 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:14,480 guess it was legal and everything was 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:16,400 legal down there it seemed really yeah 146 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:19,610 thank you yeah I never thought about was 147 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:21,620 pretty loosey-goosey when I was down 148 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:23,510 there but you're doing you never hear 149 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:25,070 anyone saying hey I got some real good 150 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:27,400 Cuban pot you know I mean you know 151 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:29,990 Panama and Jamaica every place around 152 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:32,510 that but apparently not Cuba so a lot of 153 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:35,120 the Cubans you know worked in the base 154 00:07:41,330 --> 00:07:37,560 areas worked in the mess hall and worked 155 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:41,340 but Jamaicans - they came back and forth 156 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:42,810 over the border and who knows what 157 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:45,050 they're carrying with them right 158 00:07:51,050 --> 00:07:47,490 when you were there the border was open 159 00:07:52,850 --> 00:07:51,060 we had workers coming well the workers 160 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:52,860 lived there they shares like barracks 161 00:07:56,690 --> 00:07:55,260 they go in and out you should you should 162 00:07:59,390 --> 00:07:56,700 explain to people that were talking 163 00:08:01,040 --> 00:07:59,400 about Guantanamo Bay in Cuba it's a u.s. 164 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:01,050 Navy base believe it or not at the 165 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:03,060 bottom - Cuba has been there by treaty 166 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:06,120 and right and one one was I'm renting 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:08,610 the place for a time right back in the 168 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:10,050 70s yeah 169 00:08:19,010 --> 00:08:16,830 Juan and the iguana's the iguanas 170 00:08:22,010 --> 00:08:19,020 iguanas why that comes right off your 171 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:22,020 time so anyway tonight we're going to be 172 00:08:26,810 --> 00:08:24,000 I just want to thank everyone for from 173 00:08:29,570 --> 00:08:26,820 you know write in to us and telling us 174 00:08:32,570 --> 00:08:29,580 that you enjoyed the live audience show 175 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:32,580 we had a lot of fun and I think there's 176 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:35,370 just a ground level and then the station 177 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:38,070 kicked us out and closed so yeah we'll 178 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:39,630 have to keep working that venue right a 179 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:43,409 tow station now and a new location but I 180 00:08:48,020 --> 00:08:44,880 think there's a groundswell to do it 181 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:48,030 again maybe around Christmas time to 182 00:08:52,820 --> 00:08:51,150 have a bunch of people in and then one 183 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:52,830 of us could be Santa Claus in the hub of 184 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:55,050 them we might have to youtube that one 185 00:08:59,450 --> 00:08:57,420 that could be worth you today I did a 186 00:09:01,250 --> 00:08:59,460 drive-by to the new location than I did 187 00:09:02,990 --> 00:09:01,260 a drive-by to where we could have 188 00:09:05,630 --> 00:09:03,000 refreshment afterwards so I can talk 189 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:05,640 about an order all right okay get back 190 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:08,430 today but you see one one obviously I 191 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:09,960 didn't get the memo theoretically we're 192 00:09:17,079 --> 00:09:11,930 in the new location 193 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:17,089 what okay we love a briefing afterwards 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:20,070 so all right so anyway so what we're 195 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:21,330 gonna do we're gonna be talking to rub 196 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:22,680 back housing tonight and we're also 197 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:25,200 gonna have two reports from switcher 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Reno switchblade Steve Ward who is 199 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:29,610 suddenly you know vaulted to stud them 200 00:09:35,449 --> 00:09:32,130 himself he's getting my office to be on 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:35,459 shows and you know give speeches and so 202 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:36,930 on and so forth you know we gave this 203 00:09:40,010 --> 00:09:38,040 guy his big break 204 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:40,020 yes I say I hope you remember so yeah 205 00:09:44,449 --> 00:09:42,690 you bet him anyway well we'll be 206 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:44,459 listening to him tonight in two segments 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:46,140 so when we take a commercial break down 208 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:49,410 and we'll be right back after this you 209 00:09:52,579 --> 00:09:50,850 listening to that Melones no tracks 210 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:52,589 so here on the distant Thunder radio 211 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:56,910 network stay tuned after the events of 212 00:10:02,569 --> 00:09:59,610 9/11 we thought America would never be 213 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:02,579 the same our homeland was attacked our 214 00:10:09,199 --> 00:10:05,279 fellow Americans killed by terrorists it 215 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:09,209 seemed like all hope was lost until a 216 00:10:13,939 --> 00:10:11,130 special group of Patriots came together 217 00:10:17,780 --> 00:10:13,949 and defied the Pentagon and vowed to 218 00:10:19,309 --> 00:10:17,790 take revenge but in their own way they 219 00:10:21,319 --> 00:10:19,319 took the battle to the terrorists 220 00:10:24,199 --> 00:10:21,329 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tread on old war in the air on the sea 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:37,880 or on the ground his dream is to put the 279 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:40,010 United States back together again and 280 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:43,490 get laid a lot while he's doing it for 281 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:45,110 some of the greatest aerial action 282 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:48,350 you'll ever experience strap in and hold 283 00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:52,610 on wingman by Mack Maloney now available 284 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:15,460 mr. e our tire doesn't melt steel how do 285 00:14:20,070 --> 00:14:17,450 you think they're talking out of the 286 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:20,080 other end well Mac let the audience 287 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:23,600 realize I am in a lot of horrible pain 288 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:26,810 I have mersa and my left leg is being 289 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:30,080 eaten apart so if I moaned or ice-cream 290 00:14:36,430 --> 00:14:32,960 a little bit please excuse that okay Wow 291 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:36,440 I took two percocet 10w 325 I was not 292 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:39,110 supposed to take them well so I may fall 293 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:42,770 asleep or die on the phone well we had a 294 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:45,920 very interesting YouTube video this was 295 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:48,590 at a turkey there was a guy his he's in 296 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:51,320 his fourth floor apartment flying a 297 00:14:55,330 --> 00:14:52,850 drone out of the window down to the 298 00:14:57,940 --> 00:14:55,340 corner store and actually buying a pack 299 00:15:00,040 --> 00:14:57,950 of cigarettes with the drone and then 300 00:15:02,260 --> 00:15:00,050 his cigarettes being flown back into his 301 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:02,270 window of his apartment oh man that's 302 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:04,310 funny that is where did that take place 303 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:06,740 in Turkey in Turkey yeah well what else 304 00:15:11,650 --> 00:15:09,980 do you have to do there your first ghost 305 00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:11,660 hunting experience was actually an 306 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:13,520 anniversary date you and Keith went away 307 00:15:16,570 --> 00:15:15,710 to some romantic hotel that was also 308 00:15:19,450 --> 00:15:16,580 haunted correct 309 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:19,460 absolutely we M we got a camera and a 310 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,050 digital recorder we said let's try it 311 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:23,600 out we went to a haunted hotel once you 312 00:15:27,790 --> 00:15:26,510 just tell audience exactly how you went 313 00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:27,800 about your first ghost hunting 314 00:15:35,050 --> 00:15:32,840 experience because you were naked all 315 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:35,060 right now all of a sudden a paranormal 316 00:15:41,650 --> 00:15:39,920 audience you know just then on the line 317 00:15:43,270 --> 00:15:41,660 with us is our very good friend Charles 318 00:15:45,250 --> 00:15:43,280 don't call me Chuck stands about calling 319 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:45,260 us from down there in Houston Texas away 320 00:15:48,730 --> 00:15:47,450 a child is some very interesting guy he 321 00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:48,740 was a life a lot of us would like to 322 00:15:53,230 --> 00:15:50,990 live because we can say he knows people 323 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:53,240 aliens being some other world's knows 324 00:15:57,190 --> 00:15:55,220 them so well that very frequently they 325 00:15:58,450 --> 00:15:57,200 take him for rides and their spaceships 326 00:16:00,070 --> 00:15:58,460 all through the galaxy how you doing 327 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:00,080 there tonight Chuck pretty good hey 328 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:01,550 listen now fill this in a little bit 329 00:16:08,340 --> 00:16:04,090 more on the about your wife up there 330 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:08,350 she's tall nine feet tall 331 00:16:12,249 --> 00:16:10,730 nice body what's the body look like 332 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:12,259 Chuck 333 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:17,240 slender yes nice what do you get a gray 334 00:16:20,019 --> 00:16:18,649 for her birthday yeah well you get it 335 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:20,029 yeah what do you how do you wanna keep 336 00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:20,540 her happy 337 00:16:24,370 --> 00:16:22,459 that's a pretty good question I haven't 338 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:24,380 really talked to her about that or 339 00:16:31,930 --> 00:16:29,930 hitting yet which is a pretty good 340 00:16:33,790 --> 00:16:31,940 little thing knew we had all the family 341 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:33,800 and everything there yes my little 342 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:36,920 daughter yep was there I mean she's so 343 00:16:45,610 --> 00:16:39,380 cute she's kind of and her name is uh 344 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:45,620 style shine shine okay yep right yeah 345 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:46,569 one of us too 346 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:49,910 and on the line with us is a very funny 347 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:52,310 man a very interesting guy lieutenant 348 00:16:58,329 --> 00:16:54,800 Mitch Stinson and not only is he a 349 00:17:00,430 --> 00:16:58,339 former Navy carrier pilot but he's also 350 00:17:02,410 --> 00:17:00,440 a stand-up comedian tell us the origin 351 00:17:03,009 --> 00:17:02,420 of a couple of nicknames of people that 352 00:17:05,919 --> 00:17:03,019 you served with 353 00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:05,929 we had a guy whose last name was Benton 354 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,220 and yeah I don't know if you remember 355 00:17:11,049 --> 00:17:09,199 the actress Barbara Benton consultant 356 00:17:12,730 --> 00:17:11,059 Barbie and man his face turned red the 357 00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:12,740 first time he ever heard of that Wow 358 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:14,860 I hope you're lying a two engine jet 359 00:17:19,210 --> 00:17:17,510 yeah oh yeah we had a kid who is a true 360 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:19,220 story he spilled a hot cup of coffee on 361 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:21,140 his crotch and he spent the his his 362 00:17:28,270 --> 00:17:26,270 career known as hazelnuts how do i how 363 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:28,280 do people you know how do beans you know 364 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:29,929 kind of let's say get together on his 365 00:17:34,570 --> 00:17:32,210 planet can he explain that to us in ways 366 00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:34,580 that we can understand and then we won't 367 00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:40,190 get thrown off the year okay keep it 368 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:42,980 clean now trousers let's hear well 369 00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:46,909 basically when they're I'm gonna give 370 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:52,039 you an example say you have a female 371 00:17:59,389 --> 00:17:55,080 walking by and then 372 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,399 a male walking by somewhere and then the 373 00:18:03,769 --> 00:18:00,720 male looks at the female and the female 374 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:03,779 looks back to him and then the the eyes 375 00:18:10,669 --> 00:18:08,370 connect therefore they are a couple in 376 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:10,679 the sense and once once they are a 377 00:18:24,919 --> 00:18:19,289 couple the couple will never i'll get 378 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:24,929 worked up already I am too he's kind of 379 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:27,690 a personality in the military back he's 380 00:18:32,629 --> 00:18:30,210 kind of a kind of personality in the 381 00:18:34,879 --> 00:18:32,639 military blackops world this is the 382 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:34,889 world of the CIA the NSA you know places 383 00:18:43,159 --> 00:18:41,970 like that he'll I'll be Phil I don't 384 00:18:44,629 --> 00:18:43,169 care all right 385 00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:44,639 all right let's just try it again all 386 00:18:58,340 --> 00:18:56,510 [Music] 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:18:58,350 hey welcome back everyone tonight monies 388 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:00,090 mill textiles show here on the distant 389 00:19:05,299 --> 00:19:02,190 Thunder radio never in it is mecklen in 390 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:05,309 the studio us tonight he has just read 391 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:05,910 the memo 392 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:08,250 apparently the very famous wine one 393 00:19:15,049 --> 00:19:11,490 Cenac how are you sitting three feet 394 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:15,059 across from me in black morning patriots 395 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:19,590 a year yes right I don't know if I still 396 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,130 carry my T b12 performance guide I'm 397 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:25,679 really arm you know it's amazing the 398 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:27,600 clothing he's wearing because it's for 399 00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:29,429 years been in the closet how good a 400 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:30,900 shape that it's in yeah right 401 00:19:35,660 --> 00:19:33,990 back to me um yeah ban I meant nothing 402 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:35,670 by something being in the closet let's 403 00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:36,870 not even go I know you didn't I didn't 404 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:40,860 go there what was the I can't remember 405 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:43,050 the guy the quarterbacks name that whose 406 00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:45,809 place Brady took it's been so long you 407 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:48,870 know yeah guy good look at her and 408 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:51,630 anyway it's been in there since he was 409 00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:54,120 the quarterback one right I can't 410 00:19:59,840 --> 00:19:55,920 remember his name either wow that's 411 00:20:04,490 --> 00:19:59,850 insane I can see him but yeah it was 412 00:20:06,980 --> 00:20:04,500 2001 man I was like 17 so anyway yeah 413 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:06,990 though right now I can see your face 414 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:09,000 you're smiling 1-1 but all I can see is 415 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:09,930 two into 416 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:54,230 you 417 00:20:59,570 --> 00:20:56,989 I'm not the least me in the book Kansas 418 00:21:03,320 --> 00:20:59,580 City for and oh okay last night that was 419 00:21:07,009 --> 00:21:03,330 a that was the seventh worry dinner yeah 420 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,019 and also we're joining us is the cope or 421 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:09,600 at a at the northern location we just 422 00:21:14,239 --> 00:21:11,850 had a treat of seeing his lovely wife on 423 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:14,249 camera for a brief moment three words I 424 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:15,809 have for you three words you're ready 425 00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:18,090 yeah ready ready yeah everybody ready 426 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:18,840 yes 427 00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:25,559 rude McQueen Bledsoe oh that's the 428 00:21:31,629 --> 00:21:28,289 pro-bowl rider assuming the quarterback 429 00:21:35,169 --> 00:21:31,639 I'll quickly forget it's true Wow 430 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:35,179 you have to look it up Cobra this is why 431 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:40,799 only this my wife knew yeah so anyways 432 00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:43,730 so hey listen also on the fault that's 433 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,559 talked about football his he's from the 434 00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:51,600 see where what is it 1-1 it's been so 435 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,269 murder capital of the world you get a 436 00:22:00,980 --> 00:21:58,559 present like a graveyard of below 437 00:22:01,609 --> 00:22:00,990 presidents but great cheerleaders on the 438 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:01,619 football team 439 00:22:08,659 --> 00:22:04,049 great cheerleaders no yeah the Bennett 440 00:22:10,639 --> 00:22:08,669 and oddly maim cats its Dallas and Rob 441 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:10,649 Beck housing from why was boring was 442 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:14,129 boring calm the best military warning on 443 00:22:18,769 --> 00:22:16,289 the internet how you doing tonight there 444 00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:18,779 Rob I'm pretty good how are you okay 445 00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:21,720 alright we're like we always kind of you 446 00:22:33,259 --> 00:22:29,940 know hi but I mean alright and so anyway 447 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:33,269 well listen we have a bit of an extended 448 00:22:38,869 --> 00:22:35,610 segment tonight but I have to report 449 00:22:41,539 --> 00:22:38,879 that when you're on the show last week's 450 00:22:43,879 --> 00:22:41,549 show which was live what he'd show pot - 451 00:22:45,769 --> 00:22:43,889 hmm we talked about it might have been 452 00:22:50,769 --> 00:22:45,779 pot one they kind of run together to me 453 00:22:56,779 --> 00:22:50,779 now but we had a relationship expert on 454 00:22:59,239 --> 00:22:56,789 dr. Brennan and yep she was really good 455 00:23:01,930 --> 00:22:59,249 and she really kind of really you know 456 00:23:04,190 --> 00:23:01,940 hit the target with you and you cat and 457 00:23:07,770 --> 00:23:04,200 having no one watching the dishes for 458 00:23:09,299 --> 00:23:07,780 almost a year okay yeah she nailed you 459 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:09,309 [Music] 460 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,350 did you feel better yeah yeah you did 461 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:20,240 you felt better so this doctor makes a 462 00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:20,720 house call 463 00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,929 that's what so big let go and I let it 464 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:24,559 go 465 00:23:35,860 --> 00:23:33,110 advice I think oh really okay did you 466 00:23:37,659 --> 00:23:35,870 take any of it well I was just doing 467 00:23:39,899 --> 00:23:37,669 what I was I'm still doing what I was 468 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:39,909 talking about last time into it you're 469 00:23:46,419 --> 00:23:42,169 hanging out with people going out you 470 00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:46,429 know really yeah well you gonna say one 471 00:24:00,730 --> 00:23:55,720 thing is that we not yeah yeah like yeah 472 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:00,740 couple people but time to get to that 473 00:24:08,109 --> 00:24:04,369 and what did they think of the cat oh I 474 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:08,119 didn't even brought the cat with me that 475 00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:15,230 out with you Hughes Rob of khatyn around 476 00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:18,080 with your Mac I would say like bringing 477 00:24:22,029 --> 00:24:19,669 the cat with them to nightclubs and 478 00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:22,039 stuff that's anybody else showing you 479 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,350 their cat yeah oh wait a minute hold on 480 00:24:29,710 --> 00:24:27,919 there's always appropriate probably it's 481 00:24:34,269 --> 00:24:29,720 a little dr. evil kind of you know have 482 00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:34,279 the cat out with me so no I'm no 483 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:36,200 relationship expert I can say something 484 00:24:38,769 --> 00:24:37,970 like dumping a cat out to the clubs with 485 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:38,779 you okay 486 00:24:43,239 --> 00:24:40,610 I think only inviting trouble frankly 487 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:43,249 yeah I'm not to mention the 9,000 dogs 488 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:45,619 on there who could eat sit yeah but 489 00:24:52,389 --> 00:24:49,490 anyway we did make an appeal to our 490 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:52,399 listeners to help you name your cat do 491 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:53,090 you remember that 492 00:24:58,989 --> 00:24:55,850 for what corralling that weren't you the 493 00:25:01,419 --> 00:24:58,999 honcho on that I am okay well we got 494 00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:01,429 several responses only one of which we 495 00:25:06,909 --> 00:25:03,230 can say on the air right yes 496 00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:06,919 unfortunately okay and I think it's cute 497 00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:09,619 okay for me that's just me I think it's 498 00:25:14,499 --> 00:25:12,470 good you know one here it is okay yeah 499 00:25:16,379 --> 00:25:14,509 let's go one can you guess say you want 500 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:16,389 to just throw it against there JJ 501 00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:19,890 Katrina now let's see that's wrong 502 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:21,420 so that's important taste away it's a 503 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,290 male cat right well okay Cobra I still 504 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:30,000 AM hanging forgot though because I 505 00:25:37,630 --> 00:25:34,350 thought God though was the way oh yeah 506 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:37,640 you don't like Felix Felix is great okay 507 00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:40,530 okay well our the person who wrote in 508 00:25:45,050 --> 00:25:42,360 asked to remain anonymous but their 509 00:25:46,730 --> 00:25:45,060 choice for I think like I say I think 510 00:26:01,910 --> 00:25:46,740 it's cute I think it's precious okay 511 00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:01,920 ready anyway so and when is that meeting 512 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:03,750 what was that the name suppose a 513 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:06,210 positive piece or something Cobra is 514 00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:08,730 that some Starbucks in Dallas I did make 515 00:26:12,530 --> 00:26:11,070 the letter I don't know we I showed you 516 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:12,540 the site you saw the website when we 517 00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:15,080 brought it over so no it's real rob was 518 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,830 investigating that actually you have to 519 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:18,960 direct that to rob all right Rob have 520 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:26,210 you gone to this type of mistake no no 521 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:30,450 anyway I have a feeling that pause for 522 00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,090 peace it's gonna kind of go like when we 523 00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:35,120 talked about him going to the arranged 524 00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:37,560 mm-hmm I think I have a feeling that you 525 00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:39,870 know he's maybe possibly shining it on 526 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:41,340 here just a little bit yeah I don't like 527 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:42,810 it too much into the street you know 528 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:44,910 talk the whole Coco thing is out of 529 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:47,250 control as it is you know we can tell 530 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:48,810 you can see right there on the screen 531 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:51,510 you know so I you know given given the 532 00:26:57,530 --> 00:26:54,840 given the gang signs you know this is a 533 00:27:00,260 --> 00:26:57,540 lot of 50-plus gang members up here in 534 00:27:03,530 --> 00:27:00,270 Maine so don't you know never know ever 535 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:03,540 he knows all the gang signs fee that's 536 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:08,610 been studying up as what did you point 537 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:11,370 there Cobra I don't think we can trust 538 00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:11,790 him 539 00:27:15,860 --> 00:27:13,560 that he's going to do it I think are 540 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,870 going to have to go dr. evil on him and 541 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:17,580 maybe arrange something 542 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:19,740 he's like the nuns used to say he's 543 00:27:25,670 --> 00:27:22,770 hearing us to death you know enemy yeah 544 00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:25,680 yeah yeah okay Rob well you know the 545 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:27,660 balls in your court 546 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:35,690 okay okay yeah yeah yeah I've gotta just 547 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:41,190 yeah yeah yeah well it's not the yeah 548 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:42,930 yeah decisive about her they could tell 549 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,690 you have a well worked up plan so what 550 00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:47,520 what we should do is get one of your 551 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:49,830 friends on is there some mutual friend 552 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:53,580 that um do you in your circle of friends 553 00:27:58,340 --> 00:27:56,250 is there a married couple yes sir yeah 554 00:28:01,340 --> 00:27:58,350 okay we talked to the wife see she's the 555 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:01,350 one you know she's an intervention by 556 00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:04,590 proxy and virtually yeah that's good 557 00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:06,060 that's should be very successful 558 00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:08,100 okay how about that we can we set that 559 00:28:17,330 --> 00:28:15,120 up okay hey while you're at it 560 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:17,340 that's when why was boring into a story 561 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:23,490 on us that's been about about doing 562 00:28:33,530 --> 00:28:25,470 stories about radio shows you appear on 563 00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:33,540 them every week I would have to copy on 564 00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:36,870 it heavily so promotion we've been 565 00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:39,420 promoting um you know why was boring for 566 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:42,990 two years every week okay that would be 567 00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:45,890 loading it right now by bringing it up 568 00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:48,720 in this set right I didn't get my 569 00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:52,980 freaking t-shirt man do they have a 570 00:29:02,120 --> 00:28:59,370 t-shirt yeah yes anyway alright let's 571 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:02,130 just get to the biz here I did sign a 572 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,290 picture of the airplane to you Mac if 573 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:06,720 you okay saw that yeah now what we're 574 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:08,730 talking about tonight is a lot of people 575 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:11,460 out there probably know the SS 71 is the 576 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,250 Blackbird it's the fastest highest 577 00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:17,520 flying aircraft like ever built and I 578 00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:19,800 think a lot of people are any you know 579 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:21,390 they know what it might look like it's a 580 00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:23,850 spy plane it was it's been around for a 581 00:29:27,860 --> 00:29:25,500 long time and the stuff that they can do 582 00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:27,870 is just amazing consumptives been around 583 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:30,780 for about 40 years or more but it's no 584 00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:32,910 longer flying well out there three or 585 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:34,500 four them still flying fan ass or 586 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:36,450 something they granted them all today I 587 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:37,890 believe that they are no longer flying 588 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:40,860 any variant of it right now okay so and 589 00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:41,460 one of the reasons 590 00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:43,020 might be is that now they have known 591 00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:46,679 somehow cobra right that this si 72 its 592 00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,299 replacement is basically in the air 593 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:50,640 right it's kind of interesting raw I 594 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,770 don't take from rub but this thing's 595 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,240 been kicked around and talked about but 596 00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:57,360 Rob found in an open sources wow that's 597 00:30:02,840 --> 00:29:59,700 interesting so at what stage is that 598 00:30:05,139 --> 00:30:02,850 people have seen it flying well what 599 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:05,149 people have seen on the ground is a 600 00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:08,130 smaller demonstrator aircraft for the 601 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:11,940 semi to and that came out just recently 602 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:16,890 was at the it was a you know spotted 603 00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:18,690 with skunk works which is lucky you know 604 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:20,220 everyone we know Lockheed's advanced 605 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:23,309 development program so and it was a they 606 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:25,110 have a big very secretive facility in 607 00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:28,230 Palmdale California where there's also a 608 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:31,169 lot of interesting bomber stuff going on 609 00:30:37,010 --> 00:30:34,799 with the new b21 Raider but yeah so 610 00:30:39,139 --> 00:30:37,020 there was a em it was a source actually 611 00:30:42,529 --> 00:30:39,149 told Aviation Week about the 612 00:30:44,419 --> 00:30:42,539 demonstrator aircraft landing there so 613 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:44,429 this is a you know getting the actual 614 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:48,809 full-scale aircraft is not do probably 615 00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:51,390 do until not out you know not bill yet 616 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:53,340 so they're gonna in this the development 617 00:31:02,570 --> 00:30:57,090 process goes on for years and and then 618 00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:02,580 uh in the late 2020s is the is when you 619 00:31:05,950 --> 00:31:03,899 know what I what I've seen when people 620 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:05,960 expect it to start flying the full-scale 621 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:10,289 spy plane all right but as cobra said 622 00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:11,370 this thing's been around for a while 623 00:31:15,289 --> 00:31:12,750 people have been kind of seeing this 624 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:15,299 kind of it's it's triangle-shaped in a 625 00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:17,250 way it's you know it's I don't know how 626 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:18,539 to describe it it's it's definitely 627 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:20,850 triangle-shaped yeah it looks like a 628 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:22,860 like a really you know it's like a paper 629 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:26,330 airplane like a really long very thin 630 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:31,320 highly angular you know there but look 631 00:31:36,019 --> 00:31:33,330 at the concept images because again the 632 00:31:38,049 --> 00:31:36,029 you know Lockheed you know has to come 633 00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:38,059 out with the program it's not it's not a 634 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:41,880 it's not a totally black project grab 635 00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:44,610 and you know there was there's aviation 636 00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:49,860 buffs remember have looked back at this 637 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:52,440 mythical plane called the Aurora which 638 00:31:58,060 --> 00:31:55,250 was you know flying around 639 00:32:00,190 --> 00:31:58,070 and creating these mysterious reports of 640 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,200 sonic booms and but nobody ever knew 641 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:03,440 what it was and you know even back to 642 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:06,760 the late 80s we heard that there was a 643 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:09,730 successor to the sr-71 being developed 644 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:12,710 so you know actually I picked myself let 645 00:32:16,659 --> 00:32:14,840 me go back and what I said a minute ago 646 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:16,669 is this but this thing might not be 647 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:19,400 built on a full scale yet actually I 648 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:23,809 don't know that okay but people have 649 00:32:25,930 --> 00:32:25,130 been seeing something so what was saying 650 00:32:28,779 --> 00:32:25,940 his people have been seeing the 651 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:28,789 demonstrator all these years no I don't 652 00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:30,500 think he's saying that right yeah I 653 00:32:34,539 --> 00:32:31,419 agree 654 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:34,549 I this may have been another black 655 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:35,750 project that we're seeing with the 656 00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:41,960 Aurora the the SR 72 is you know it's 657 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:44,179 it's I don't think it resembles the 658 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:47,600 triangular-shaped Aurora this is a you 659 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:51,950 know a much longer much you know like I 660 00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:54,110 said bums me like a long thin paper 661 00:33:03,880 --> 00:32:59,030 airplane and that were that was spotted 662 00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:03,890 at Palmdale just this month okay now and 663 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:05,990 you see that this kind of quote-unquote 664 00:33:11,710 --> 00:33:09,200 leak came through Aviation Week that's 665 00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:11,720 right okay well Aviation Week B is 666 00:33:17,260 --> 00:33:14,919 that's been the Pentagon's go-to 667 00:33:20,049 --> 00:33:17,270 publication if they want stuff to leak 668 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:20,059 out you know that's that's the way if I 669 00:33:26,409 --> 00:33:23,330 want restriction you know so the 670 00:33:28,299 --> 00:33:26,419 question is is why why now is this to 671 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:28,309 scare the North Koreans or something 672 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:31,130 ah yeah could be I mean I I don't know 673 00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:33,950 the answer that I needed we do you know 674 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:36,710 when the military wants you to you know 675 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:38,690 wants to send a signal I mean they this 676 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:40,970 is they have done this in the past so 677 00:33:45,610 --> 00:33:44,330 it's consistent with it and interesting 678 00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:45,620 ones a site when you've got when you 679 00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:47,240 talk about Aviation Week and the 680 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:49,220 relationship is to go back and look at 681 00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:52,090 what they did during the b-2 bomber 682 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:54,080 unveiling and what they did with the 683 00:33:59,740 --> 00:33:55,690 f-117 nighthawk 684 00:34:02,409 --> 00:33:59,750 they played both sides of it very well 685 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:02,419 not no way that I can prove it but some 686 00:34:05,020 --> 00:34:03,770 of the things and some of the access 687 00:34:07,389 --> 00:34:05,030 they got with the claims that they were 688 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:07,399 taking those pictures from the ridge 689 00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:08,690 lines that when 690 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:11,419 were closer to area 51 and the other 691 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:13,970 spots just never panned out they were 692 00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:18,109 getting some I think some inside tell 693 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,750 from DoD to push certain other events 694 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:25,760 around in a certain direction meaning 695 00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:29,510 continue funding make enemies go and put 696 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:31,550 funding in a different direction so I 697 00:34:34,450 --> 00:34:32,810 think that they've done this for a long 698 00:34:36,579 --> 00:34:34,460 time I think they've lost a lot of their 699 00:34:41,649 --> 00:34:36,589 cachet though in the last few years as 700 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:41,659 the Internet has exploded yeah I bought 701 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:42,940 them yeah 702 00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:47,050 you have funding battles like that's 703 00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:50,149 especially whence the sense that the 704 00:34:56,530 --> 00:34:51,409 Pentagon's budget is being negotiated 705 00:34:58,690 --> 00:34:56,540 right now I can see that so what's also 706 00:35:03,940 --> 00:34:58,700 interesting well who's the maker of the 707 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:03,950 f-35 right Lockheed Martin and you know 708 00:35:07,569 --> 00:35:05,900 is there any possibility that this is 709 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,579 why you know they need to get some 710 00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:09,680 favorable press of the breakthroughs 711 00:35:12,609 --> 00:35:11,240 that they're doing so that they make the 712 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:12,619 promise of what they're promising on the 713 00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:14,210 f-35 is gonna go the way it's supposed 714 00:35:22,089 --> 00:35:20,270 to go that's a good theory it's I think 715 00:35:24,609 --> 00:35:22,099 how they keep the funding going right oh 716 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:24,619 yeah and with rough right out rough 717 00:35:30,609 --> 00:35:27,170 waters I did want to make one quick note 718 00:35:33,309 --> 00:35:30,619 Mac talked about the sr-71 being the 719 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:33,319 fastest airplane and that is correct and 720 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:35,450 I know we're going to get the email so 721 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:37,849 I'm going to just set this up the xv-15 722 00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,250 was correction the x-15 was faster but 723 00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:45,920 it was a rocket point it took its own 724 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:48,680 internal fuel supply it did not air 725 00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:51,050 breathe so we're going to put that in a 726 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,990 separate category okay I just I already 727 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:55,760 know where this is gonna go I already 728 00:36:02,290 --> 00:35:58,210 know the D that the mail drop will have 729 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:02,300 Mac was wrong and he's not does that 730 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:05,930 happen often back no Brooke no it 731 00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:06,770 doesn't happen often 732 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:12,260 okay their replication what I would want 733 00:36:15,730 --> 00:36:13,520 to talk about this a little bit what's 734 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:15,740 really interesting about these 7s are 72 735 00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:20,089 is the how they're powering it so and I 736 00:36:25,930 --> 00:36:22,520 have a hard time wrapping my head around 737 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:25,940 jet engines but I you know they're very 738 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:30,410 complicated to me but it's actually more 739 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:32,450 simple than than organic internal 740 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:38,330 combustion engine Cobra like to ask you 741 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:40,130 about these scramjet that's supposed to 742 00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:42,170 be aboard this thing right so from what 743 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:43,820 I understand is you know this thing is 744 00:36:48,190 --> 00:36:46,880 designed to travel extremely fast and if 745 00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:48,200 I get a mock phone yeah 746 00:36:58,300 --> 00:36:53,420 Mach 5 plus so you know they use as a 747 00:37:01,600 --> 00:36:58,310 conventional turbine to accelerate 748 00:37:03,340 --> 00:37:01,610 after-prom Mach 3 yep which is very 749 00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:03,350 similar what they probably did with the 750 00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:07,940 sr-71 alright and then the scramjet 751 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:11,000 takes over and it propels it past Mach 5 752 00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:13,780 what's interesting about the scramjet is 753 00:37:20,170 --> 00:37:16,550 that it doesn't work until you're going 754 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:20,180 really fast right the end the reason for 755 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:22,760 that and correct me if I'm wrong but the 756 00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:26,090 way it compresses the air flow through 757 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:32,600 the engine requires it the physics of it 758 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:35,210 is that you need a large air block of 759 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:39,230 air coming in it uses very few moving 760 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:42,680 parts internally no you're not spinning 761 00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,930 turbines and to do that you use those 762 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:47,119 other engines to do that and then when 763 00:37:51,730 --> 00:37:50,330 you induce your fuel air your fuel 764 00:37:53,740 --> 00:37:51,740 mixture in with that air and that 765 00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:53,750 compressed air as it goes through the 766 00:37:59,980 --> 00:37:56,470 chambers and squeezes it down with that 767 00:38:01,660 --> 00:37:59,990 explosion that's occurring that's what's 768 00:38:04,090 --> 00:38:01,670 causing your propellant as it goes out 769 00:38:06,849 --> 00:38:04,100 the back end of the of the engine but 770 00:38:09,790 --> 00:38:06,859 you can't get it to work unless you are 771 00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:09,800 able to get it going sufficiently fast 772 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:12,830 enough the buzz bombs of world war ii 773 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:20,290 used a version of a ramjet so another 774 00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:22,850 you know as also the design of the shape 775 00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:27,020 of the aircraft so you're going so fast 776 00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:29,390 and you've got a I mean this engineering 777 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:31,670 challenges on this have to be I mean it 778 00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:34,130 sounds simple somewhat little too simple 779 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:35,300 it's like well you have to be removing 780 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:36,380 parts and 781 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:37,970 it's you've also have probably fewer 782 00:38:44,549 --> 00:38:41,359 fewer moving parts you have fewer 783 00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:44,559 possibilities that something goes wrong 784 00:38:51,969 --> 00:38:48,529 however you're going at you know your 785 00:38:56,859 --> 00:38:51,979 can the equipment survive in the extreme 786 00:39:00,160 --> 00:38:56,869 conditions that a scramjet it's gonna be 787 00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:00,170 Houston well I mean you you have missile 788 00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:03,470 technology rocket technology low Earth 789 00:39:08,589 --> 00:39:07,220 orbit technology that has been the 790 00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:08,599 foundation for a lot of things that 791 00:39:17,019 --> 00:39:11,630 they've achieved here the computer 792 00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:17,029 technology is so evolved that it's going 793 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:19,369 to provide you know I remember the first 794 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:22,729 time they talked about what they carried 795 00:39:28,329 --> 00:39:25,609 four computers and how many that they 796 00:39:29,979 --> 00:39:28,339 carried now what used to be the size of 797 00:39:33,009 --> 00:39:29,989 a shoebox and they would carry three on 798 00:39:36,849 --> 00:39:33,019 an aircraft is down to something the 799 00:39:48,339 --> 00:39:36,859 size of your cell phone and you can 800 00:39:49,569 --> 00:39:48,349 carry any idea how much this one of 801 00:39:57,009 --> 00:39:49,579 these things cost 802 00:40:01,749 --> 00:39:57,019 I do not know I'd say a lot yeah I mean 803 00:40:04,209 --> 00:40:01,759 if a b-1 you know b2 plus they cost what 804 00:40:06,219 --> 00:40:04,219 a half a billion each oh god no you get 805 00:40:08,049 --> 00:40:06,229 over half a million bye-bye for now 806 00:40:09,759 --> 00:40:08,059 there are about two billion dollars are 807 00:40:11,979 --> 00:40:09,769 they really yeah well okay that makes 808 00:40:13,690 --> 00:40:11,989 sense right so they want that the Air 809 00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:13,700 Force wants the b21 don't cost that much 810 00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:16,700 which will be the B twos successor of 811 00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:18,920 sorts when they said coming down the 812 00:40:24,209 --> 00:40:20,420 line when is the what's it gonna be 813 00:40:32,259 --> 00:40:30,579 yeah but yeah so the problem I just 814 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:32,269 saved hundreds of dollars by switching 815 00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:35,150 to Geico I'm so happy I feel like I can 816 00:40:38,799 --> 00:40:37,430 fly disclaimer you will not be able to 817 00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:38,809 fly by switching to Geico this is 818 00:40:41,469 --> 00:40:40,099 against the laws of physics and nature 819 00:40:42,609 --> 00:40:41,479 if you find yourself flying please seek 820 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:42,619 professional and/or medical help 821 00:40:45,459 --> 00:40:44,089 immediately in the unlikely event you 822 00:40:47,410 --> 00:40:45,469 find yourself lying you might be a 823 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:47,420 superhero or a pigeon or a superhero 824 00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:48,750 named Paige woman who was 825 00:40:51,890 --> 00:40:50,220 bitten by a radioactive pigeon if you 826 00:40:53,090 --> 00:40:51,900 are indeed bid woman keiko retains all 827 00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:53,100 licensing publishing rights in the event 828 00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:54,750 pits woman the movie becomes a top 829 00:40:59,410 --> 00:40:56,820 grossing Hollywood blockbuster Geico 15 830 00:41:02,990 --> 00:40:59,420 minutes could save you 15% or more I 831 00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,000 would say that the b2 you know it had a 832 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:06,720 lot of uh there were you know costs rose 833 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:08,670 in during the engineering and 834 00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:11,490 development phase and so the Air Force 835 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:12,630 originally wanted to buy more than a 836 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:15,270 hundred of them right uh what's the cost 837 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:18,480 accelerated you know it became a lot 838 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:20,430 heavier than they expected you know 839 00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:22,170 originally when you add weight to 840 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:24,990 aircraft you know that degrades 841 00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:26,430 performance everywhere else you have to 842 00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,260 compensate it it's very confused and 843 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:30,780 very complicated but you know what's 844 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:32,910 that that happened the the number of 845 00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:35,130 aircraft that they ordered you know or 846 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:37,830 they wanted fell so they want to avoid 847 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:39,330 repeating those mistakes in them with 848 00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,460 the b21 and that's the general idea it's 849 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:42,960 gonna look a lot like the b2 you know 850 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:44,670 the big you know batwing shape stealth 851 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:49,920 bomber and you know I mean I think costs 852 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:52,830 will probably rise as they do in you 853 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:55,770 know most aircraft projects you know 854 00:41:59,450 --> 00:41:57,000 they've built something like this before 855 00:42:03,710 --> 00:41:59,460 and there you know production processes 856 00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:03,720 have changed so yeah so they have a you 857 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:07,800 know they they could they have a I don't 858 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,810 expect them to you know for this to be 859 00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:11,040 another b2 860 00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:13,580 you know will only ever get 20 of them 861 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:15,660 you know I think you're right there this 862 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:18,090 is gonna replace the b1 fleet and it's 863 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:19,650 gonna start taking out a number of the 864 00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:23,520 b-52 fleet yeah yeah it's gonna and the 865 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:26,190 beaches will complement them so the 866 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:27,210 beaches will still be fine for a while 867 00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:30,210 um can I ask a question will there be 868 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:32,070 MIT will there be a crew in it it'll be 869 00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:35,730 two guys flying it like the B - yeah so 870 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:40,260 yes but you know they've I've heard you 871 00:42:43,610 --> 00:42:41,910 know possibility it could be optionally 872 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:43,620 man so you know they could fly it isn't 873 00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:44,250 as a drone 874 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:49,380 all right maybe so they could I know but 875 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:51,090 you know we don't know yet all right I 876 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,680 think the big thing back on this 877 00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:54,480 optionally man capability is allow you 878 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:57,060 to moving around if you don't have crews 879 00:43:01,760 --> 00:42:58,890 or if there's a critical mission to go 880 00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:01,770 do that but I believe it's also going to 881 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:02,609 allow them 882 00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:08,400 to have even more pervasive abilities to 883 00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:11,220 let the crew stay up in the air longer I 884 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:13,049 mean these guys whole thing's incredibly 885 00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:15,480 long missions now so if you augment that 886 00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:18,630 or if you have some kind of setback with 887 00:43:22,579 --> 00:43:20,460 the crew now you can turn it over and 888 00:43:25,549 --> 00:43:22,589 it's it's still gonna continue to 889 00:43:27,289 --> 00:43:25,559 mission hey one one yes sir 890 00:43:29,539 --> 00:43:27,299 when you were down at Gitmo did you ever 891 00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:29,549 see any kind of any kind of secret stuff 892 00:43:34,489 --> 00:43:33,089 ever come into that place I mean if 893 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:34,499 there's a nipple there right there's a 894 00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:37,920 nail file you will see one strip no no 895 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:41,700 it's a runway it's on the cliff yeah I 896 00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:43,170 don't know if there's anything secret 897 00:43:49,609 --> 00:43:47,819 coming in that our mission was to look 898 00:43:52,339 --> 00:43:49,619 for submarines who are looking for you 899 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:52,349 know secret submarines that was a time 900 00:43:55,789 --> 00:43:54,210 when they told you to you know green 901 00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:55,799 your barracks and stay there or whatever 902 00:43:59,690 --> 00:43:57,660 no that didn't happen okay 903 00:44:02,029 --> 00:43:59,700 afraid not I'll tell you Mac I think 904 00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,039 most secret stuff came in to Gitmo and 905 00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,079 transport aircraft and I think most of 906 00:44:09,229 --> 00:44:07,440 those were contract mm-hmm when I was 907 00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:09,239 there it was still very popular see an 908 00:44:13,579 --> 00:44:11,880 outfit that flew dc-8 that would come in 909 00:44:15,499 --> 00:44:13,589 it was the most amazing thing to watch 910 00:44:20,269 --> 00:44:15,509 these guys come in because of the way 911 00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:20,279 the Cuban territorial line they would 912 00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:21,960 come in on basically on the base leg 913 00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,579 that's the 90 degrees coming in for a 914 00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:26,099 landing it would roll that airplane up 915 00:44:31,549 --> 00:44:29,700 at 3045 degrees sometimes swing it 916 00:44:34,009 --> 00:44:31,559 around on to final not going to Cuban 917 00:44:36,579 --> 00:44:34,019 airspace and then drop that really big 918 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:36,589 airplane on the runway it was amazing 919 00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:40,319 really badass voice I mean so so that 920 00:44:43,729 --> 00:44:41,910 was it you hit there was only a certain 921 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,739 amount of US airspace you could fly in 922 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:45,359 over clear right yeah it kind of like 923 00:44:51,019 --> 00:44:48,509 opened out like a bee shape from the the 924 00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:51,029 base and there was a bombing range right 925 00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:54,180 alongside the Cuban and every day when 926 00:44:58,759 --> 00:44:56,910 the a4 units was there was a VC e10 I 927 00:45:00,140 --> 00:44:58,769 believe was the the designation of the 928 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:00,150 unify remember correctly they had a 929 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:01,950 force and a couple helicopters they 930 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:03,450 would take off in the morning to would 931 00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:05,249 go out they'd fly out they would do 932 00:45:10,249 --> 00:45:07,470 their stuff out over the water come back 933 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:10,259 into the range drop two bombs each come 934 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:12,450 in land and then have lunch and go up do 935 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:14,609 it again and they did this almost every 936 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:16,290 day that's just a kid 937 00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:17,910 the cubits on the toes and onto me I 938 00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:19,470 just keep letting him know that we were 939 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:21,750 here and it the the lease was still in 940 00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:24,330 effect and we can book drop by we called 941 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:26,070 I think it was rent control at its best 942 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:29,700 myself if you look like I'm right okay 943 00:45:33,350 --> 00:45:31,290 there was a good deal also to keep the 944 00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:33,360 beer flowing to her I could imagine 945 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:35,790 the Quonset had full of beer and the pub 946 00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:37,710 we look we had there had to be supplied 947 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:39,000 so I think youbut one of the most 948 00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:40,140 beautiful places I've been 949 00:45:46,310 --> 00:45:45,180 it was awesome the Cuban island itself 950 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:46,320 gorgeous 951 00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:48,810 you know it's ironically too is people 952 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:50,520 say Vietnam is one the most beautiful 953 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:53,610 place yes you can go you know but anyway 954 00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:57,240 let me just I wanted to say one more 955 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,490 thing about this whole secrecy bomb 956 00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:01,440 earth you know and reconnaissance my 957 00:46:07,130 --> 00:46:03,420 plane thank him but go ahead a few I 958 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:07,140 want to get that in though I wanted to 959 00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:12,780 talk about the why the you know the the 960 00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:16,080 air force and lock he wants is telling 961 00:46:24,050 --> 00:46:20,760 us about this this SR 72 if you go back 962 00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:24,060 to the 80s so you remember this aircraft 963 00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:28,020 called the a12 Avenger yes yeah so this 964 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:30,900 was a Sofia an all-weather carrier 965 00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:33,690 launched a stealth attack plane right 966 00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:37,440 shape is a triangular doing here craft 967 00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:40,640 looks like a the flying of jury tow and 968 00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:43,140 it was a Donald dog with Douglas 969 00:46:46,460 --> 00:46:44,460 internal dynamics 970 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:46,470 developed it the idea was it was they're 971 00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:49,170 gonna play city an old um hey six 972 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:53,520 intruders that were in service I had it 973 00:47:02,620 --> 00:46:56,730 was so secret and this was a black as 974 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:02,630 the darkest black project and the the 975 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:06,210 why interviewed you know you know 976 00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,490 defense editor who wrote the book on the 977 00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:11,460 program and he said that mmm developed 978 00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:13,670 designers have recalled to him that 979 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:16,830 Donald Louis didn't even want them 980 00:47:21,590 --> 00:47:19,410 eating around Doritos chips right in 981 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:21,600 public in case you know what's fine 982 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:24,330 Wow picture of them and saying what are 983 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:26,130 they eating these triangular chips maybe 984 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:36,260 Fritos what would then what's the end of 985 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:37,140 the Cold War 986 00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:39,960 so the maybe wanted hundreds of these 987 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:42,660 and so what's the but they didn't expect 988 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:45,690 the Cold War to end and then the Persian 989 00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:48,810 Gulf or to occur so you know only you 990 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:52,020 know you have all this now be versus we 991 00:47:54,859 --> 00:47:53,160 leave with a small to call the peace 992 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:54,869 dividend and whatnot so we're gonna you 993 00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:56,910 know we don't need these big right one 994 00:48:00,380 --> 00:47:58,440 of the biggest mistakes they ever made 995 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:00,390 yeah didn't Cheney wasn't changing the 996 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:03,690 guy who was all under the Clinton 997 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:04,650 administration 998 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:07,020 yeah we don't go there but I'm saying 999 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:09,390 didn't they do didn't didn't Cheney say 1000 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:10,890 okay when he was the Secretary of 1001 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:13,050 Defense didn't he say all right this 1002 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:14,280 isn't gonna work and they had spent 1003 00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:16,050 fourteen billion dollars or something 1004 00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:17,940 and they never literally go off the 1005 00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:19,470 drawings board and I know we've talked 1006 00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,140 about I'm at this well I think it myself 1007 00:48:27,590 --> 00:48:24,720 I actually played it was just a do they 1008 00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:27,600 canceled it haha and then took what 1009 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,980 maybe they learned from that because 1010 00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:30,000 they must have learned something for 1011 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:32,070 fourteen billion dollars and transformed 1012 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:33,450 it into something maybe this thing we're 1013 00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:37,230 talking about tonight right I wasn't 1014 00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:38,790 that stealth though the Dorito is 1015 00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:40,830 stealth yeah yeah it wasn't high-speed 1016 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:42,630 high-altitude and I think when you look 1017 00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,080 at some of the later when it made it up 1018 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:48,480 with things like tacit blue results that 1019 00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:50,850 came out I think some of the UAVs are 1020 00:48:55,099 --> 00:48:52,560 out there flying and some of the 1021 00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:55,109 triangle airplanes that you hear and see 1022 00:49:01,300 --> 00:48:57,510 pictures of from time to time that 1023 00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:01,310 appear to be smaller in size our are the 1024 00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,990 legacy of that project I don't think 1025 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,520 that project went quite as dead as they 1026 00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:07,440 as everyone claimed it right just to end 1027 00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:09,030 up with a carrier well just the point 1028 00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:12,390 point being though that at the same time 1029 00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:14,310 to pay you know this was competing with 1030 00:49:21,770 --> 00:49:18,740 thee and what became the f-22 four 1031 00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:21,780 dollars from Congress my privacy and 1032 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:24,030 primacy in the and the capability that's 1033 00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:26,850 that's right sure yep well you know and 1034 00:49:30,349 --> 00:49:28,680 well the difference also important 1035 00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:30,359 difference with the f-22 it was a great 1036 00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:33,030 program so you know at the time people 1037 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:34,830 knew a lot about it you know they didn't 1038 00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:37,850 know everything and where the Avenger 1039 00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:41,070 was secret so when you but have to go to 1040 00:49:45,490 --> 00:49:43,580 Congress to justify your program 1041 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:45,500 it's you can justify a great program 1042 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:47,590 more than a black program absolutely 1043 00:49:52,330 --> 00:49:49,490 especially when you look at the point 1044 00:49:55,350 --> 00:49:52,340 that the flying Dorito a 12 is going to 1045 00:49:58,540 --> 00:49:55,360 be an attack aircraft much like the 117 1046 00:50:00,850 --> 00:49:58,550 117 absolutely cleaned his clock because 1047 00:50:02,590 --> 00:50:00,860 it had been flying and had gone and done 1048 00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:02,600 what it did and no one wanted to 1049 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:04,220 completely duplicate that for a 1050 00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:05,930 carrier-based aircraft and I think 1051 00:50:10,450 --> 00:50:07,940 there's some politics behind that right 1052 00:50:11,860 --> 00:50:10,460 right when the f-22 was threatened and 1053 00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:11,870 there was a time when it's threatened 1054 00:50:16,420 --> 00:50:14,420 there's a very very small window but 1055 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:16,430 there are still some collectors pieces 1056 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:19,970 out there that say F / a22 and they 1057 00:50:23,380 --> 00:50:21,410 tried to say that they were going to 1058 00:50:25,210 --> 00:50:23,390 have an attack capability that the plane 1059 00:50:28,330 --> 00:50:25,220 could be used as a cocky ability the 1060 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:28,340 f-22 was built to go so far past the 1061 00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:31,580 f-15 and every other type of generation 1062 00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:35,750 3 even nudging to generation 4 fighter 1063 00:50:41,020 --> 00:50:38,420 aircraft out there and they were 1064 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:41,030 supposed to build hundreds of them there 1065 00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:42,530 was supposed to be over 700 those 1066 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:45,230 aircraft built and even that took the 1067 00:50:53,170 --> 00:50:51,550 listen let me have some other question 1068 00:50:55,690 --> 00:50:53,180 right well we still got a I have one 1069 00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:55,700 more sir 71 yes i won 1070 00:51:02,830 --> 00:50:59,690 okay so there was Air Force chief of 1071 00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:02,840 staff curse domain preferred SR for 1072 00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:04,550 strategic reconnaissance but most 1073 00:51:08,590 --> 00:51:06,950 aircraft would be named reconnaissance 1074 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:08,600 strategic it really should have been RS 1075 00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:10,850 71 and it was originally designated RS 1076 00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:13,910 71 before the speech was given by 1077 00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:17,540 President Johnson LeMay Lobby modify 1078 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:20,680 that speech each to have it read sr-71 1079 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:23,330 the media transcript that the press had 1080 00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:27,680 the time still refers to RS 71 it as a 1081 00:51:32,350 --> 00:51:30,710 designation and then they created the 1082 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:32,360 story that the president misread the 1083 00:51:38,350 --> 00:51:35,570 aircraft's designation to make it sr-71 1084 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:38,360 he did he read what was corrected by 1085 00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:40,490 then chief of staff general image what 1086 00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:41,900 was the big deal why did he want it to 1087 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:44,240 be si he thought it sounded better and 1088 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:45,530 he thought it better reflected the 1089 00:51:49,570 --> 00:51:46,730 mission instead of reconnaissance 1090 00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:49,580 strategic he wanted it strategic 1091 00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:50,440 reconnaissance 1092 00:51:55,540 --> 00:51:53,510 didn't follow the mythology of that with 1093 00:51:57,339 --> 00:51:55,550 the first the letter closest to the 1094 00:52:01,359 --> 00:51:57,349 number the letter closest to 1095 00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:01,369 - designates the primary mission the 1096 00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:03,529 letter closest to the second well the 1097 00:52:08,109 --> 00:52:05,900 latter but before the day I got 1098 00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:08,119 completely screwed that up the first 1099 00:52:13,299 --> 00:52:11,150 letter right generally is the letter 1100 00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:13,309 that designates the primary mission of 1101 00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:15,950 the aircraft like f-18 fighter attack 1102 00:52:20,739 --> 00:52:18,470 right and it's know why it's no.1 refers 1103 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:20,749 to the f-18 that died a long time ago so 1104 00:52:27,489 --> 00:52:24,410 an a-10 gets the letter all put in front 1105 00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:27,499 of when it's a observation a track take 1106 00:52:30,849 --> 00:52:29,089 when they modify some of the gear and 1107 00:52:34,059 --> 00:52:30,859 some of the mission capable ok let me 1108 00:52:36,910 --> 00:52:34,069 ask you this question both you guys in 1109 00:52:41,769 --> 00:52:36,920 one one - if he knows I was watching a 1110 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:41,779 lot of tapes today of f-35s ok thunder 1111 00:52:50,229 --> 00:52:45,890 bolt - that's right and this is this 1112 00:52:52,989 --> 00:52:50,239 controversial airplane that is good a 1113 00:52:54,609 --> 00:52:52,999 certain design of it is going to the Air 1114 00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:54,619 Force a certain design is going to the 1115 00:52:58,839 --> 00:52:56,390 Navy a certain design is going to the 1116 00:53:00,430 --> 00:52:58,849 Marines and the ones that the Marines 1117 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:00,440 are going to get are going to be able to 1118 00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:02,329 take off vertically take off and land 1119 00:53:06,249 --> 00:53:04,460 vertically like a Harrier but if you 1120 00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:06,259 watch these things do it you just say 1121 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:08,089 wow this is it's almost like you're 1122 00:53:12,009 --> 00:53:10,249 watching a science-fiction movie because 1123 00:53:14,289 --> 00:53:12,019 it's green it's just so strange to watch 1124 00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:14,299 this thing come in it it's so futuristic 1125 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:18,049 it's just crazy now this thing has got a 1126 00:53:21,459 --> 00:53:19,729 bad rep but I know that that happens a 1127 00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,469 lot of times when planes first come out 1128 00:53:25,299 --> 00:53:23,599 people give them a bad rep and then you 1129 00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,309 know suddenly their reputation improves 1130 00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,680 as they fly them more and they work up 1131 00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:29,839 the kinks or whatever f-22 people 1132 00:53:33,219 --> 00:53:31,880 condemn that - and you know look at it's 1133 00:53:35,170 --> 00:53:33,229 probably the most unbelievable plane 1134 00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:35,180 that will ever be built but anyway so 1135 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,460 much of these f-35s come in and it's 1136 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:39,200 really kind of a thing of beauty you 1137 00:53:43,029 --> 00:53:41,690 know but then I thought well these are 1138 00:53:46,359 --> 00:53:43,039 the Marines and the Marines are gonna be 1139 00:53:48,099 --> 00:53:46,369 in forward positions right and it takes 1140 00:53:50,049 --> 00:53:48,109 about a minute for one of these things 1141 00:53:53,259 --> 00:53:50,059 to transition correctly and then come 1142 00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:53,269 down and land for that minute aren't you 1143 00:53:57,279 --> 00:53:55,400 just like a sitting duck if you're like 1144 00:53:59,170 --> 00:53:57,289 up on the line you know what I mean you 1145 00:54:00,940 --> 00:53:59,180 are you're not gonna those planes are 1146 00:54:02,349 --> 00:54:00,950 not going to be up on the line and that 1147 00:54:04,569 --> 00:54:02,359 I don't think that's any more than any 1148 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:04,579 helicopter is a helicopter transitions 1149 00:54:09,370 --> 00:54:06,650 the same way right so I don't think you 1150 00:54:10,809 --> 00:54:09,380 see much more yep I think unless these 1151 00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:10,819 guys are doing and 1152 00:54:14,529 --> 00:54:12,529 slowly you know because they just still 1153 00:54:16,479 --> 00:54:14,539 working the kinks out it took a long 1154 00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,489 time a helicopter could land and take 1155 00:54:19,539 --> 00:54:17,839 off in the time it took for one of these 1156 00:54:20,709 --> 00:54:19,549 things to come down and and I was 1157 00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,719 thinking too let's say you're in the 1158 00:54:24,909 --> 00:54:23,359 environment like Vietnam okay you're 1159 00:54:27,009 --> 00:54:24,919 arena you're the jungle environment 1160 00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:27,019 you're in a valley there's mountains all 1161 00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:29,150 around you you have shoulder-launched 1162 00:54:33,429 --> 00:54:31,369 you know surface-to-air missiles now 1163 00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,439 that go quite a distance and you have 1164 00:54:36,779 --> 00:54:35,599 just this thing just kind of hang in the 1165 00:54:39,699 --> 00:54:36,789 air you know how they used to shoot down 1166 00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,709 me-262 the German jets they would shoot 1167 00:54:44,109 --> 00:54:41,599 them they'd shoot them down on takeoff 1168 00:54:48,669 --> 00:54:44,119 and on landing right right wouldn't it 1169 00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:48,679 be the same thing Rob you wanna go first 1170 00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:52,390 well I I would say that I think about 1171 00:55:01,779 --> 00:54:57,049 one of the shortcomings of the f-35 is 1172 00:55:03,969 --> 00:55:01,789 range so I mean it's a you know so if 1173 00:55:07,059 --> 00:55:03,979 you could out range the bases that are 1174 00:55:10,329 --> 00:55:07,069 going to be launching these with 1175 00:55:11,739 --> 00:55:10,339 ballistic missiles in the Pacific right 1176 00:55:16,449 --> 00:55:11,749 that's the scenario that we're that 1177 00:55:18,909 --> 00:55:16,459 worries me and but I think that applies 1178 00:55:20,739 --> 00:55:18,919 to any aircraft that's true that's true 1179 00:55:23,319 --> 00:55:20,749 I think if you can have something that 1180 00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:23,329 can take off on land on a small ship I 1181 00:55:28,689 --> 00:55:26,209 think you have an incredible moving 1182 00:55:32,529 --> 00:55:28,699 piece on the chessboard that you can't 1183 00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:32,539 easily correct yeah and you have now you 1184 00:55:39,449 --> 00:55:35,569 have a whole series of ships that are 1185 00:55:42,189 --> 00:55:39,459 going to allow it to be able to maneuver 1186 00:55:45,699 --> 00:55:42,199 yeah I mean I would really like the Navy 1187 00:55:47,279 --> 00:55:45,709 to and put the vent also you know 1188 00:55:50,829 --> 00:55:47,289 because they're gonna be supporting them 1189 00:55:55,539 --> 00:55:50,839 the Marines vertical takeoff landing 1190 00:55:57,999 --> 00:55:55,549 version of this claim is - and we've 1191 00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,009 talked about this before but to have 1192 00:56:02,019 --> 00:56:00,319 more diversity in the types of ships 1193 00:56:03,699 --> 00:56:02,029 that they launch aircraft from so 1194 00:56:07,390 --> 00:56:03,709 instead of being Phineas assault ships 1195 00:56:09,669 --> 00:56:07,400 and the big flat flattop carrier I see 1196 00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:09,679 you you brought a very interesting point 1197 00:56:14,769 --> 00:56:12,559 Robby reason i interupting as Mac talked 1198 00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:14,779 about how it bursts the Harrier the 1199 00:56:18,969 --> 00:56:17,630 Harry used hot gas that came out of the 1200 00:56:21,939 --> 00:56:18,979 back of the engine and directed through 1201 00:56:24,550 --> 00:56:21,949 nozzles right when the f-35 does what 1202 00:56:27,310 --> 00:56:24,560 it's doing it's actually driving a thing 1203 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:27,320 and rat is directing the air down so 1204 00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:30,050 it's basically cold it's it's moving 1205 00:56:35,710 --> 00:56:32,780 this air get it's real now so also 1206 00:56:37,780 --> 00:56:35,720 sprite and yet it adds a little bit to 1207 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:37,790 it and that rear nozzle is what when I 1208 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:39,050 think you see them get more comfortable 1209 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:40,490 with it you're gonna see a much more 1210 00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:43,130 rapid transition as they go from that 1211 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:45,500 hovering flight when they do the hop and 1212 00:56:49,570 --> 00:56:47,570 of course the other part is most times 1213 00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,580 they would never take off vertically 1214 00:56:55,060 --> 00:56:51,920 right they're going to take off usually 1215 00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:55,070 use some kind of an incline the infamous 1216 00:57:00,120 --> 00:56:57,470 ski jump as some people refer to it do 1217 00:57:02,770 --> 00:57:00,130 you make those transitions quicker right 1218 00:57:04,780 --> 00:57:02,780 well yeah it's an interesting implant 1219 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:04,790 and like I say you know there's you know 1220 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:06,050 I read some of the literature and 1221 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:07,250 there's a lot of people out there that 1222 00:57:09,550 --> 00:57:08,450 don't like it but there are a lot of 1223 00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:09,560 people out there who didn't like the 1224 00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,080 f-16 they didn't like bf4 they didn't 1225 00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:14,480 like the f-111 and then suddenly these 1226 00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:16,760 things kind of grow into the FA Crusader 1227 00:57:20,170 --> 00:57:18,260 people hated that when I first come on 1228 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:20,180 now yeah you watch people interviewing 1229 00:57:23,530 --> 00:57:21,890 this is the best day of plan a of a flu 1230 00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:23,540 I would never throw anything else you 1231 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:25,310 know so maybe this will happen to the 1232 00:57:29,830 --> 00:57:28,250 f-35 well I all say it but the lift fan 1233 00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:29,840 I mean why I don't like the f-35 is 1234 00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:31,310 because when they do stick the lift fan 1235 00:57:34,090 --> 00:57:32,480 in the center of it well you're also 1236 00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:34,100 building a version for the Air Force 1237 00:57:41,260 --> 00:57:37,430 that doesn't have a live fan right sir 1238 00:57:43,390 --> 00:57:41,270 no you wanna they wanna the Air Force or 1239 00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:43,400 the Pentagon wants to have commonality 1240 00:57:48,310 --> 00:57:45,380 across all the Ryker Force Navy and 1241 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:48,320 Marine versions and so you have a plane 1242 00:57:52,330 --> 00:57:50,210 that's designed to accommodate LIF in it 1243 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:52,340 does not have a lift fan so let me give 1244 00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:56,720 my craft the great's performance and and 1245 00:58:00,270 --> 00:57:59,090 you know f-35 pilot come tell me you 1246 00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:00,280 know I'm totally wrong about this and 1247 00:58:05,050 --> 00:58:02,870 I'm you know the politics of that is 1248 00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:05,060 that is to protect the marine course 1249 00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:07,790 aviation piece if they if the Air Force 1250 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:10,580 starts to fly a true V stall fighter 1251 00:58:14,290 --> 00:58:12,770 aircraft like that then what's the 1252 00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:14,300 reason for the Marines to be flying that 1253 00:58:19,630 --> 00:58:16,150 they're gonna have a more difficult time 1254 00:58:22,110 --> 00:58:19,640 being able to was make the argument the 1255 00:58:24,670 --> 00:58:22,120 Air Force will once again start to 1256 00:58:26,620 --> 00:58:24,680 spread across they're saying that this 1257 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:26,630 should be one service that's flying all 1258 00:58:35,710 --> 00:58:31,690 the aircraft right okay makes sense 1259 00:58:37,780 --> 00:58:35,720 one more question before you go what's 1260 00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:37,790 the cat's name this week 1261 00:58:42,790 --> 00:58:41,240 I actually still just cat at the moment 1262 00:58:47,530 --> 00:58:42,800 yes Kant went the minimal wrote 1263 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:47,540 interesting okay yeah just so I can you 1264 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:49,250 know we can respond back to out listener 1265 00:58:56,260 --> 00:58:51,830 any chance you could do you with Colin 1266 00:59:01,390 --> 00:58:56,270 puddles um yeah maybe possibly well I 1267 00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:01,400 got a mole it over first but uh okay see 1268 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:03,950 if your response to okay all right can 1269 00:59:07,330 --> 00:59:06,050 we call them puddles how about that just 1270 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:07,340 know and I don't 1271 00:59:14,790 --> 00:59:12,410 okay you like the word like the name 1272 00:59:16,330 --> 00:59:14,800 puddles or not you don't know I know 1273 00:59:18,190 --> 00:59:16,340 work with the women 1274 00:59:24,190 --> 00:59:18,200 I think puddles will work with the 1275 00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:24,200 possible why I like animals name with 1276 00:59:30,010 --> 00:59:27,760 real names real people names oh really 1277 00:59:32,650 --> 00:59:30,020 you don't know anyone named puddles is 1278 00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:32,660 that your problem that's little puddles 1279 00:59:38,530 --> 00:59:35,870 the clown he's a good sounds like 1280 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:38,540 dribbles triple its tribbles cousin is 1281 00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:44,170 actually a poor animal a good name that 1282 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:47,360 represents this prisoner personalities a 1283 00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:50,570 male cat right yeah yeah there's no 1284 00:59:54,070 --> 00:59:51,950 leaving puddles around the house if you 1285 00:59:58,330 --> 00:59:54,080 did it would be a perfect like Brady or 1286 01:00:01,540 --> 00:59:58,340 something fortunately not yeah let's 1287 01:00:03,340 --> 01:00:01,550 come Z I think it's I think it's pretty 1288 01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:03,350 funny become Brady and then you use a 1289 01:00:17,770 --> 01:00:15,010 yeah thanks Mac thanks for being there 1290 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:17,780 thanks for getting me the you know was 1291 01:00:21,790 --> 01:00:20,210 EQ we can you can calm Zeke and then you 1292 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:21,800 can you know in about six months in 1293 01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:23,810 column four one one five four three two 1294 01:00:29,470 --> 01:00:24,350 right 1295 01:00:35,110 --> 01:00:29,480 isn't that was eeks going that's good 1296 01:00:36,190 --> 01:00:35,120 that was a good anyway but I don't know 1297 01:00:38,020 --> 01:00:36,200 I don't know if I told you this last 1298 01:00:39,820 --> 01:00:38,030 week maybe I did but I said I made a 1299 01:00:42,460 --> 01:00:39,830 confession last week that I don't hate 1300 01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:42,470 Tony Romo that I said one one are they 1301 01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,550 dream it do you remember okay didn't 1302 01:00:52,569 --> 01:00:51,200 seem like a compliment because 1303 01:01:00,620 --> 01:00:52,579 expect that they hate up you kidding me 1304 01:01:00,630 --> 01:01:29,670 you 1305 01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:32,040 I really heard from the quarterback's 1306 01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:35,260 point of view every play and what they 1307 01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:36,849 should do before he took the ball it's 1308 01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:39,160 great heat it really tells you you know 1309 01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:41,230 I football was like crazy anyway someone 1310 01:01:45,299 --> 01:01:43,000 said they went to they tried out to be 1311 01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:45,309 it was like George Plimpton remember he 1312 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:46,750 used to do all those different things he 1313 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:49,450 tried a little Detroit Tigers and it's 1314 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:50,890 probably yeah and I'm skewing name but 1315 01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:53,020 he he did a movie called paper lion 1316 01:01:58,079 --> 01:01:54,880 where he actually played for the Detroit 1317 01:02:00,210 --> 01:01:58,089 Lions years ago he's an author and he 1318 01:02:02,099 --> 01:02:00,220 said when they gave me the offensive 1319 01:02:05,010 --> 01:02:02,109 plays to read it was just it was like a 1320 01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:05,020 thin sink three-ring binder that's the 1321 01:02:08,569 --> 01:02:06,160 offense all right 1322 01:02:12,930 --> 01:02:08,579 given the defense he says it was six 1323 01:02:15,569 --> 01:02:12,940 three-ring binders and that was back 1324 01:02:18,329 --> 01:02:15,579 then that's how it if NFL football 1325 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:18,339 defenses are you know but somehow Tony 1326 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:20,050 Romo said okay they're gonna do watch 1327 01:02:23,250 --> 01:02:21,970 this though these run these two guys in 1328 01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:23,260 from the side then they'll fake and will 1329 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:25,180 come in and he's usually right you know 1330 01:02:29,819 --> 01:02:28,089 so if he does bring another you know 1331 01:02:34,380 --> 01:02:29,829 kind of angle to the game I kind of like 1332 01:02:36,059 --> 01:02:34,390 him but now we'll see yeah no I saw that 1333 01:02:38,910 --> 01:02:36,069 I was I was impressed I want to watch 1334 01:02:40,589 --> 01:02:38,920 okay and I was a kind of a Romo fan and 1335 01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:40,599 I he was a great scrambler there's my 1336 01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:42,160 favorite thanks to watching the scramble 1337 01:02:46,620 --> 01:02:44,440 well the pocket was collapsing around it 1338 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:46,630 yeah well okay well you know when the 1339 01:02:49,770 --> 01:02:48,250 pocket is collapsing around you I mean 1340 01:02:51,809 --> 01:02:49,780 you want to be on a team that you don't 1341 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:51,819 have to scramble okay it's good that you 1342 01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:54,250 can but you know it's good that you've 1343 01:02:57,930 --> 01:02:55,960 you just you know stand there and do it 1344 01:02:59,880 --> 01:02:57,940 Plus talk about scrambling didn't he 1345 01:03:02,640 --> 01:02:59,890 like go away with Jennifer Simpson or 1346 01:03:04,829 --> 01:03:02,650 something the week before the Super Bowl 1347 01:03:10,289 --> 01:03:04,839 or something wasn't he like never do 1348 01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:10,299 that that's not good preparation right 1349 01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:13,510 and it looks bad it just looks bad get 1350 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:16,270 weak legs after that you know right yeah 1351 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:20,770 you ain't it boys all right 1352 01:03:25,890 --> 01:03:22,930 you know oh I can't believe you guys 1353 01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:25,900 would jangle that the NFL has weak legs 1354 01:03:32,190 --> 01:03:28,750 maybe that's why they're never mind I 1355 01:03:35,579 --> 01:03:32,200 won't go there that's good okay that 1356 01:03:37,859 --> 01:03:35,589 one's for restraint code anyway Robins 1357 01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:37,869 like their medal for restraint thank you 1358 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:39,640 I always wanted I was so glad I wasn't 1359 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,049 in the military to get one of those yeah 1360 01:03:51,150 --> 01:03:41,290 we 1361 01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:51,160 okay it's over it's over so yeah so I 1362 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:53,470 will I will keep monitoring the SR 72 1363 01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:55,930 and maybe we can talk about nuking 1364 01:04:00,570 --> 01:03:58,480 hurricanes oh yeah get to that we're 1365 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:00,580 going to talk about that okay all right 1366 01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:11,370 okay bye Rob stays down there by puddles 1367 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:13,750 and we want to talk to your married 1368 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:19,240 friends wife okay okay thirty six step 1369 01:04:22,620 --> 01:04:20,650 process they'll be the next step book 1370 01:04:25,020 --> 01:04:22,630 this is like their weekly therapeutic 1371 01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:25,030 sessions okay all right you know I mean 1372 01:04:28,860 --> 01:04:26,740 I do have one in mind you have a wife in 1373 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:28,870 mind there is somebody in mind I was 1374 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:30,850 someone came to mind okay all right now 1375 01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:34,090 I just but just tell us what she looked 1376 01:04:41,970 --> 01:04:35,680 like is she is she attractive 1377 01:04:44,610 --> 01:04:41,980 yeah yeah okay how old was she what's 1378 01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:44,620 her name there are 30 so oh yeah nice 1379 01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:49,060 milf spite my people my age you know 1380 01:04:56,220 --> 01:04:51,670 really yeah what's your name is it like 1381 01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:56,230 Jodi or something no no I don't know you 1382 01:05:01,620 --> 01:04:58,810 know I give them a doctor yet yeah do 1383 01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:01,630 not give the name okay stop listening to 1384 01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:06,640 him Rob stop listening to him I'm just 1385 01:05:13,050 --> 01:05:09,430 trying to help Rob alone at this point 1386 01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:13,060 okay - I'm on thanks back hi thank you 1387 01:05:16,350 --> 01:05:14,350 for uh well thank you soon have you 1388 01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:16,360 thanks him like one one we take the 1389 01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:18,700 bullet in anything beautiful yep yeah 1390 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:22,750 Rob's a loyal flora see you later 1391 01:05:28,310 --> 01:05:25,090 they go Robin tunnels I think those is 1392 01:05:30,660 --> 01:05:28,320 gonna grow on them sounds filthy but I 1393 01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:30,670 why don't we take a commercial break now 1394 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:34,360 long overdue and we'll be back with the 1395 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:37,210 first of switch to switch segments 1396 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:38,410 tonight so you're listening to Mack 1397 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:39,970 Moniz military-style show here on the 1398 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:41,770 distant Thunder radio network we'll be 1399 01:06:43,000 --> 01:05:50,460 British secret service hello money money 1400 01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:43,010 how's your mission yeah what are you 1401 01:06:46,270 --> 01:06:43,760 doing 1402 01:06:48,130 --> 01:06:46,280 besides resting my two friends James I'm 1403 01:06:51,130 --> 01:06:48,140 here to tell you that you don't have to 1404 01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:51,140 steal the car do sex formula from doctor 1405 01:06:54,070 --> 01:06:53,060 no no all you have to do is go online 1406 01:06:55,660 --> 01:06:54,080 and order it yourself 1407 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:55,670 and you'll have plenty of the new energy 1408 01:07:01,710 --> 01:06:56,930 drink they can give you the extra 1409 01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:04,930 it's called scx for strength energy 1410 01:07:08,860 --> 01:07:07,220 accelerator and it's easy to use just 1411 01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:08,870 mix a scoop of water and shaken not 1412 01:07:12,010 --> 01:07:10,550 stirred 30 minutes before you start your 1413 01:07:14,410 --> 01:07:12,020 workout if you look fine you can last 1414 01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:14,420 longer and feel all-around better about 1415 01:07:20,070 --> 01:07:18,020 finishing the original and the mix comes 1416 01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:20,080 in many different 1417 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:27,910 my favorite is passion Creek thank you I 1418 01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:32,650 don't know push one and find out she's I 1419 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:35,470 hope he's women's rocker just not that's 1420 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:37,810 SDX workout dietary supplement available 1421 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:40,480 only through Cargill owe us a visit 1422 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:43,210 Cargill owe us a.com for more details 1423 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:45,550 about our big two-for-one itself that's 1424 01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:50,410 CA r di ll o us a.com and get some sex 1425 01:08:00,600 --> 01:07:58,240 today UFOs are found in Renaissance art 1426 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:00,610 on ancient coins and etched on cave 1427 01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:03,430 walls they are even reported in the 1428 01:08:10,310 --> 01:08:06,670 Bible but more surprising is when UFOs 1429 01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:10,320 have seen the most in times of war 1430 01:08:14,460 --> 01:08:13,000 through centuries thousands of UFO 1431 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:14,470 sightings have been made by high-ranking 1432 01:08:19,830 --> 01:08:17,170 officials military pilots in ordinary 1433 01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:19,840 soldiers often these fantastic 1434 01:08:25,230 --> 01:08:21,820 appearances occur at the height of great 1435 01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,240 battles from World War 1 to d-day to 1436 01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:28,000 Korea Vietnam and beyond military 1437 01:08:32,700 --> 01:08:30,910 investigators are baffled why do UFO 1438 01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:32,710 sighting spikes so drastically during 1439 01:08:36,510 --> 01:08:33,280 wartime 1440 01:08:40,710 --> 01:08:36,520 could it be mistaken aircraft or someone 1441 01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:40,720 or some thing looking in on us in UFOs 1442 01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:42,940 in wartime what they didn't want you to 1443 01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:45,040 know Mac Malone II chronicles centuries 1444 01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:46,720 of these incredible sightings and tries 1445 01:08:52,349 --> 01:08:49,030 to solve the puzzle of why so many UFOs 1446 01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:52,359 are seen while Humanity is at war read 1447 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:54,400 about the scare ships the ghost planes 1448 01:09:00,300 --> 01:08:57,370 and the ghost rockets alien Giants in 1449 01:09:03,450 --> 01:09:00,310 the jungles of Vietnam UFOs controlling 1450 01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:03,460 our ICBM bases dogfights with flying 1451 01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:07,150 saucers during the Gulf War and more 300 1452 01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:10,030 pages of unbelievable stories along with 1453 01:09:14,790 --> 01:09:11,470 many startling photographs 1454 01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:14,800 that's UFOs in wartime what they didn't 1455 01:09:24,270 --> 01:09:17,500 want you to know by Mack Bologna on sale 1456 01:09:31,660 --> 01:09:28,540 America has lost World War 3 terrorists 1457 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:31,670 control the countryside air pirates rule 1458 01:09:43,970 --> 01:09:41,329 but just when it seems like freedom is a 1459 01:09:46,459 --> 01:09:43,980 thing of the past a new hero emerges 1460 01:09:48,769 --> 01:09:46,469 from the ashes a true American who 1461 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:48,779 stands up for what's right a fighter 1462 01:09:52,519 --> 01:09:51,449 pilot who could defeat any Fault anytime 1463 01:10:00,580 --> 01:09:52,529 anywhere 1464 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:03,100 both of the adventures of hot hunter the 1465 01:10:08,530 --> 01:10:05,930 wingman as he fights to revive the idea 1466 01:10:10,930 --> 01:10:08,540 of America through 17 action-packed 1467 01:10:14,020 --> 01:10:10,940 books hunter battles all those who would 1468 01:10:16,510 --> 01:10:14,030 tread on old lore in the air on the sea 1469 01:10:18,610 --> 01:10:16,520 or on the ground his dream is to put the 1470 01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:18,620 United States back together again and 1471 01:10:23,770 --> 01:10:22,190 get laid a lot while he's doing it for 1472 01:10:27,010 --> 01:10:23,780 some of the greatest aerial action 1473 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:27,020 you'll ever experience strap in and hold 1474 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:31,280 on wingman by Matt Maloney now available 1475 01:10:38,010 --> 01:10:46,610 [Music] 1476 01:10:46,620 --> 01:13:01,330 you 1477 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:03,790 in the studio West tonight wearing all 1478 01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:05,930 black yet Patriots gear the very famous 1479 01:13:09,490 --> 01:13:08,390 Juan Juan is here hello Mac how's it 1480 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:09,500 going so far tonight 1481 01:13:13,630 --> 01:13:11,570 oK we've caught you in the corner crying 1482 01:13:15,460 --> 01:13:13,640 you know just a little bit not as much 1483 01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:15,470 as I get over them getting over it 1484 01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:18,440 solely because the Patriots lost - Wow 1485 01:13:23,140 --> 01:13:20,390 it just it's really getting uglier and 1486 01:13:24,910 --> 01:13:23,150 he's a field goal the last seconds and 1487 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:24,920 well totally unnecessary 1488 01:13:30,460 --> 01:13:28,370 it's a bookies best friend so anyway yep 1489 01:13:31,900 --> 01:13:30,470 you'll see you know things illustrating 1490 01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:31,910 that one one you know be brave be a 1491 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:35,110 brave soldier please oh yeah yeah good 1492 01:13:40,750 --> 01:13:38,770 also ok I'm sorry to cut you off on this 1493 01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:40,760 emotional moment please 1494 01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:42,580 did you have something want to say I 1495 01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:44,510 sound like a parrot we're sending 1496 01:13:47,770 --> 01:13:45,200 prayers 1497 01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:47,780 let's get Steve on here ok all right I 1498 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:49,160 just wanted well we have to introduce 1499 01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:51,890 Coco first but I just want to know when 1500 01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:53,510 last week when you brought the Tom Brady 1501 01:13:57,970 --> 01:13:55,490 book in and you were give me 12 1502 01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:57,980 performance guide yeah yeah and you're 1503 01:14:01,740 --> 01:13:58,640 really going 1504 01:14:08,860 --> 01:14:01,750 Google over his pictures with me gaga 1505 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:08,870 yeah googoo gaga all over my phone ok 1506 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:11,690 anyway just look at the pictures first 1507 01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:15,310 yeah no playboy yeah I was eating 1508 01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:18,560 spirulina this morning in my mind how 1509 01:14:27,790 --> 01:14:23,600 long have to go on if he's like this 1510 01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:27,800 when they're losing that said I come 1511 01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:29,510 into Cobra that you hear he's at his 1512 01:14:35,620 --> 01:14:32,510 Dobbin disclosed location Coco on the 1513 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:35,630 streets everything okay with you yeah 1514 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:39,050 he's perfect sir thanks to Co Co okay 1515 01:14:47,710 --> 01:14:45,050 and and we will what would that be you 1516 01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:47,720 know country October country October no 1517 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:49,310 that would be Charlie Oscar Charlie 1518 01:15:06,910 --> 01:14:52,090 Oscar oh I like that even better okay 1519 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:06,920 also joining the military Ron short way 1520 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:08,330 when the Russians word like trying to 1521 01:15:14,339 --> 01:15:10,850 contact their agent now this country 1522 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:14,349 October I'm thinking about famous book 1523 01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:17,290 right badly that's my excuse I'm stick 1524 01:15:23,010 --> 01:15:20,590 with it also on the line with this is up 1525 01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:23,020 there in Battle Creek where they make 1526 01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:26,260 all those lovely serials switcher me 1527 01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:30,040 know from Steve one from Balki Michigan 1528 01:15:34,140 --> 01:15:31,780 how you doing this Richie I'm doing 1529 01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:34,150 really good okay all right now this is 1530 01:15:37,709 --> 01:15:35,920 gonna be a double switch so tonight I 1531 01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:37,719 just made that up on one but we should 1532 01:15:42,419 --> 01:15:40,510 copyright that double switch switch show 1533 01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,429 because we're doing this segment and 1534 01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:44,320 then he's so good he's going to be doing 1535 01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:47,020 a segment after this segment if we do 1536 01:15:55,410 --> 01:15:52,630 our math right you tell us you went 1537 01:15:58,379 --> 01:15:55,420 someplace interesting in the past right 1538 01:16:02,760 --> 01:15:58,389 I did I've been intrigued by a book 1539 01:16:05,250 --> 01:16:02,770 called the Van Meter visitor Van Meter 1540 01:16:09,089 --> 01:16:05,260 is a very small town west of Des Moines 1541 01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:09,099 Iowa and back in 1903 there was a series 1542 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:10,719 of really bizarre events that took place 1543 01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:13,690 with a somewhat Mothman like creature a 1544 01:16:19,229 --> 01:16:17,230 sort of a a humanoid shape with wings 1545 01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:19,239 but but there was some quite a few 1546 01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:23,440 differences Chad Lewis Kevin Nelson and 1547 01:16:28,020 --> 01:16:25,780 Noah vaso the three researchers on that 1548 01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:28,030 book now I got to meet Chad Lewis and 1549 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:30,280 Kevin Nelson at the van Meter visitor 1550 01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:32,530 festival this past weekend which they 1551 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:36,070 have at the end of September and have 1552 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:38,290 for five years and this is the it kind 1553 01:16:42,089 --> 01:16:39,610 of the anniversary of when this all 1554 01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:42,099 these events happened in 1903 late 1555 01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:45,369 September early October and what they 1556 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:47,590 had done was when they they were they've 1557 01:16:50,550 --> 01:16:49,570 a chant has written several books and he 1558 01:16:53,899 --> 01:16:50,560 was you know doing a lot of research 1559 01:16:57,089 --> 01:16:53,909 into just oddities in different states 1560 01:16:59,250 --> 01:16:57,099 Wisconsin Minnesota Iowa and so forth 1561 01:17:01,379 --> 01:16:59,260 and he came across as one about some 1562 01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:01,389 kind of a creature that was supposed to 1563 01:17:05,819 --> 01:17:02,710 been seen in this town his first 1564 01:17:07,890 --> 01:17:05,829 reaction was that this was a hoax but 1565 01:17:10,589 --> 01:17:07,900 the more they dug into it they found 1566 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:10,599 that the several townspeople that saw 1567 01:17:14,609 --> 01:17:12,730 this thing were very prominent you would 1568 01:17:17,790 --> 01:17:14,619 have had a banker and so forth yeah 1569 01:17:19,740 --> 01:17:17,800 these are people that wouldn't be likely 1570 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:19,750 to create a hoax I mean do you want to 1571 01:17:24,089 --> 01:17:21,010 say you saw some kind of a winged 1572 01:17:25,740 --> 01:17:24,099 creature and have your clientele say I 1573 01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:25,750 think I'm gonna put my deposit somewhere 1574 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:27,679 else right so what 1575 01:17:33,939 --> 01:17:30,890 I mean we can just grab it yeah I sent a 1576 01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:33,949 picture up to you Mac yeah that's uh it 1577 01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:35,150 was 1578 01:17:40,810 --> 01:17:39,440 reminisce about the Jersey Devil if 1579 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:40,820 you've ever ever seen illustrations of 1580 01:17:45,070 --> 01:17:43,130 that it had kind of a beak that was a 1581 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:45,080 little bit different than the Mothman it 1582 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:47,210 one thing that was very strange about it 1583 01:17:52,330 --> 01:17:49,010 it seemed to emanate some kind of a 1584 01:17:55,149 --> 01:17:52,340 light from a horn that was on the beak 1585 01:17:57,550 --> 01:17:55,159 yeah and and like the first first night 1586 01:18:00,160 --> 01:17:57,560 it was seen by a man named Griffin VG 1587 01:18:02,169 --> 01:18:00,170 Griffin he saw some light up on top of a 1588 01:18:03,610 --> 01:18:02,179 building thought two-story building in 1589 01:18:05,470 --> 01:18:03,620 town thought it was some kind of a 1590 01:18:07,419 --> 01:18:05,480 burglar then he sees the light across 1591 01:18:09,610 --> 01:18:07,429 the street in another building couldn't 1592 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:09,620 figure that one out and then dr. 1593 01:18:16,899 --> 01:18:13,730 Ellicott he he this is very dark night 1594 01:18:18,850 --> 01:18:16,909 this is uh on a Wednesday early early 1595 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:18,860 morning he wakes up there's a bright 1596 01:18:22,419 --> 01:18:20,480 light shining through the window in his 1597 01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:22,429 face he can't figure out what the source 1598 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:25,580 is he keeps his eyes adjust somewhat and 1599 01:18:31,060 --> 01:18:28,730 he sees kind of a vaguely human you know 1600 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:31,070 cross between a human and animal form 1601 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:35,449 with large bat-like wings he blasted 1602 01:18:40,899 --> 01:18:38,570 with his gun yeah 1603 01:18:42,910 --> 01:18:40,909 the creature either vanishes or takes 1604 01:18:45,250 --> 01:18:42,920 off but he doesn't you know there's no 1605 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:45,260 evidence that he actually hit it and 1606 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:47,210 this went on for several nights there 1607 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:49,250 they called it a week the week of terror 1608 01:18:58,090 --> 01:18:55,250 yes and there were some really both Chad 1609 01:19:00,430 --> 01:18:58,100 Lewis and Kevin Nelson did presentations 1610 01:19:03,070 --> 01:19:00,440 one of the interesting things about this 1611 01:19:04,810 --> 01:19:03,080 thing was you know how River how John 1612 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:04,820 keel we talked about him a lot yeah he 1613 01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:07,610 believed that the the the manifestation 1614 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:09,110 the the way that these things look 1615 01:19:13,810 --> 01:19:11,690 wasn't quite that important he was 1616 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:13,820 looking for he said the cosmic mechanism 1617 01:19:17,890 --> 01:19:15,890 behind these things when you look at 1618 01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:17,900 this and some of these new sightings you 1619 01:19:23,860 --> 01:19:21,440 have this kind of a very similar to some 1620 01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,870 of the so called et Encounters although 1621 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:25,760 nobody ever thought this was an et but 1622 01:19:31,630 --> 01:19:28,730 you have the light you have you had one 1623 01:19:33,820 --> 01:19:31,640 case where a mr. white and saw this 1624 01:19:35,140 --> 01:19:33,830 thing he saw this thing he heard some 1625 01:19:37,540 --> 01:19:35,150 kind of a strange noise looks out his 1626 01:19:41,169 --> 01:19:37,550 window sees it sitting on top of the 1627 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:41,179 crossbar a telephone pole 1628 01:19:50,290 --> 01:19:55,260 you 1629 01:19:59,490 --> 01:19:57,090 up to its full height it's about eight 1630 01:20:03,930 --> 01:19:59,500 feet tall okay starts first it starts 1631 01:20:08,690 --> 01:20:03,940 leaping like a like a kangaroo and then 1632 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:08,700 he shoots at it again it takes off and 1633 01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:11,410 well no it takes off on a first on all 1634 01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:13,900 fours and then spreads its wings and 1635 01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:16,300 takes off now about this time he smells 1636 01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:18,280 some kind of a horrible odor which is 1637 01:20:21,870 --> 01:20:19,900 another thing that shows up in these and 1638 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:21,880 right after that he can't remember 1639 01:20:25,950 --> 01:20:23,770 anything else that happened the rest of 1640 01:20:28,710 --> 01:20:25,960 the night so you have the amnesia factor 1641 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:28,720 as well right but let me just tell you 1642 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:30,730 oh go ahead no it's just conceited see 1643 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:32,530 that's weird is that you know we haven't 1644 01:20:36,930 --> 01:20:34,810 really kind of you know put it that way 1645 01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:36,940 before but that's another idea that we 1646 01:20:43,740 --> 01:20:40,780 talked about a lot the you know theory 1647 01:20:46,350 --> 01:20:43,750 that all this stuff is you know it's 1648 01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:46,360 from the same thing UFOs Bigfoot who 1649 01:20:51,630 --> 01:20:48,670 knows this was that but it is strange 1650 01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:51,640 that people have these reactions when 1651 01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:53,440 they see as you say aliens but they also 1652 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:55,360 have these kind of same reactions when 1653 01:20:59,490 --> 01:20:57,130 they see creatures like this is gonna be 1654 01:21:02,490 --> 01:20:59,500 some connection you know it has to be 1655 01:21:03,870 --> 01:21:02,500 they they think it was buts associated 1656 01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:03,880 with some kind of it was a mind they're 1657 01:21:08,220 --> 01:21:06,640 an old clothes down coal mine and one of 1658 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:08,230 them was seen there along with another 1659 01:21:13,170 --> 01:21:10,000 one which was what was about half its 1660 01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:13,180 size they even got a posse out toward 1661 01:21:17,340 --> 01:21:14,860 the end of the week with her guns 1662 01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:17,350 looking for this thing but this this 1663 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:18,580 festival is they've been doing this 1664 01:21:22,710 --> 01:21:20,770 about five years it's has had some very 1665 01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:22,720 humble beginnings just like the Mothman 1666 01:21:30,280 --> 01:22:00,100 you 1667 01:22:04,990 --> 01:22:02,979 it is to work by the festive Mothman 1668 01:22:06,669 --> 01:22:05,000 festival these days but you know you got 1669 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:06,679 a look at the the Mothman festivals had 1670 01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:09,290 a whole series of serendipitous events 1671 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:11,510 to kind of you know give it its its 1672 01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:14,449 thousands of attendees right in 2003 1673 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:16,790 they had a piece on CBS Sunday morning 1674 01:22:20,169 --> 01:22:18,530 they had the film with Richard Gere 1675 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:20,179 they've had a whole series of great 1676 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:22,130 documentaries so you know little by 1677 01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:24,530 little it's grown I really expect this 1678 01:22:30,970 --> 01:22:27,679 will too but it was great to talk to the 1679 01:22:33,729 --> 01:22:30,980 authors of the book the they told me 1680 01:22:36,820 --> 01:22:33,739 that you know while the festival has 1681 01:22:38,859 --> 01:22:36,830 grown a little bit every year this year 1682 01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:38,869 there was just a great deal of 1683 01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:40,880 enthusiasm people are really really 1684 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:43,340 enjoying this and I I talked to some 1685 01:22:49,629 --> 01:22:46,250 people I talked to a lady that you know 1686 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:49,639 nobody in her family co-workers friends 1687 01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:52,010 nobody is interested in this stuff so 1688 01:22:55,330 --> 01:22:53,510 when she comes to an event like this 1689 01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:55,340 it's like oh my god I can talk to people 1690 01:22:59,470 --> 01:22:58,730 about this stuff right and I enjoy right 1691 01:23:01,300 --> 01:22:59,480 yeah cool 1692 01:23:03,070 --> 01:23:01,310 so how many how many people were there 1693 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:03,080 the desert but they asked me to about 1694 01:23:08,740 --> 01:23:06,050 350 and what was very very cool is Chad 1695 01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:08,750 Lewis he did this walking tour and he 1696 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:10,310 did it both in the daytime and at night 1697 01:23:14,140 --> 01:23:12,170 time you know he hooks up with a with a 1698 01:23:17,740 --> 01:23:14,150 microphone and a little little speaker 1699 01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,750 and you could go on a bus if you you 1700 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:19,520 know had trouble walking or whatever or 1701 01:23:23,530 --> 01:23:21,770 just the walking tour and what he does 1702 01:23:25,060 --> 01:23:23,540 is he goes through town and he points at 1703 01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:25,070 all the buildings where you know when 1704 01:23:28,209 --> 01:23:26,750 the first that's light was seen he 1705 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:28,219 points to where the thing was seen on 1706 01:23:32,500 --> 01:23:30,530 the telephone pole the doctor's office 1707 01:23:34,419 --> 01:23:32,510 that was disturbed and so you go through 1708 01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:34,429 town and then you make a 90-degree angle 1709 01:23:39,220 --> 01:23:36,800 and you go out to where the old mine was 1710 01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:39,230 so it's not really very far at all then 1711 01:23:43,149 --> 01:23:41,360 you can see where the there was another 1712 01:23:44,740 --> 01:23:43,159 trend remember there's another factory 1713 01:23:46,899 --> 01:23:44,750 out there left of the mine closed down 1714 01:23:48,910 --> 01:23:46,909 and that's where they they saw the two 1715 01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:48,920 of them together so you get the whole 1716 01:23:53,859 --> 01:23:51,920 you know the whole I mean you can kind 1717 01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:53,869 of visualize what's going on and he's 1718 01:23:58,209 --> 01:23:55,369 telling you you know what these people 1719 01:24:01,120 --> 01:23:58,219 had seen right and another thing he 1720 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:01,130 revealed was there was actually a more 1721 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:02,810 recent sighting in some time in the 1722 01:24:07,419 --> 01:24:05,810 1980s now this this this set these this 1723 01:24:10,660 --> 01:24:07,429 incidents these these were just buried 1724 01:24:12,970 --> 01:24:10,670 nobody remembered about the VanMeter 1725 01:24:13,839 --> 01:24:12,980 creature you know it was just gone right 1726 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:13,849 and 1727 01:24:17,020 --> 01:24:15,050 until they started digging into old 1728 01:24:18,879 --> 01:24:17,030 newspapers well there was some guy out 1729 01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:18,889 there and in the 1980s just walking his 1730 01:24:23,470 --> 01:24:21,110 dog there's a nice long dirt road that 1731 01:24:26,140 --> 01:24:23,480 goes adjacent to where the mine was and 1732 01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:26,150 this thing that that's sound exactly 1733 01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:28,940 like the the Van Meter visitor the van 1734 01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,510 Meter creature swooped down and just 1735 01:24:37,089 --> 01:24:33,920 kind of buzzed over them and then took 1736 01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,099 off totally freaked him out he had no no 1737 01:24:41,589 --> 01:24:39,199 conception that it was something out of 1738 01:24:43,330 --> 01:24:41,599 the past right yeah wow that's wild man 1739 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:43,340 that's crazy 1740 01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:47,570 so I just I don't know I got a bunch of 1741 01:24:54,250 --> 01:24:51,440 questions but you know why why do people 1742 01:24:55,689 --> 01:24:54,260 see this thing and not Mothman if you 1743 01:24:58,300 --> 01:24:55,699 know what I mean you know why 1744 01:25:01,770 --> 01:24:58,310 if why is there another winged creature 1745 01:25:05,050 --> 01:25:01,780 out there you know you don't I mean why 1746 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:05,060 why would you have yes creatures well 1747 01:25:10,780 --> 01:25:08,960 it's that goes into a Kevin Nelson when 1748 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:10,790 he gave his talk he talked about all 1749 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:12,650 kinds of other winged creatures 1750 01:25:18,129 --> 01:25:15,770 including Mothman and also focus on the 1751 01:25:20,589 --> 01:25:18,139 what they're calling the Chicago phantom 1752 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:20,599 the the winged humanoids that they're 1753 01:25:26,530 --> 01:25:23,810 seeing around North Chicago nice right 1754 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:26,540 well I also rosemary ellen guiley the 1755 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:27,650 lady that had me on her show a little 1756 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:30,770 while ago she did a presentation on that 1757 01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:32,530 at the Mothman festival 1758 01:25:36,609 --> 01:25:34,639 yeah that's good switch remain oh you 1759 01:25:41,709 --> 01:25:36,619 lose you leavin yeah you learn in the 1760 01:25:43,390 --> 01:25:41,719 business yes so yeah it's well I mean he 1761 01:25:46,209 --> 01:25:43,400 actually brought up John keel himself 1762 01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:46,219 you know about how a keel you used the 1763 01:25:50,740 --> 01:25:48,409 term altered terrestrial as some kind of 1764 01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:50,750 a literary device to kind of try to 1765 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:52,940 explain the that these strange 1766 01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:56,090 manifestations that show up it's it's 1767 01:25:58,660 --> 01:25:57,199 probably a lot of people were saying 1768 01:26:02,080 --> 01:25:58,670 well you know we're seeing the Mothman 1769 01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:02,090 over a cago or you know Mothman was seen 1770 01:26:07,060 --> 01:26:04,070 before Chernobyl 1771 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:07,070 blew its top but they're not quite the 1772 01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,449 same you know even if some of these 1773 01:26:13,180 --> 01:26:10,639 reports are accurate they're never quite 1774 01:26:14,890 --> 01:26:13,190 the same not you know you're there just 1775 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:14,900 just like you know when you go back and 1776 01:26:20,649 --> 01:26:18,170 look at the well the UFO reports 1777 01:26:23,140 --> 01:26:20,659 themselves the the saucers the cigar 1778 01:26:25,299 --> 01:26:23,150 shape-shifts eyes the car shape-shift 1779 01:26:27,550 --> 01:26:25,309 ships okay Oh 1780 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:27,560 almost almost difficult to say okay 1781 01:26:32,230 --> 01:26:29,930 and and even the the occupants these 1782 01:26:34,150 --> 01:26:32,240 there's many reports where people claim 1783 01:26:36,250 --> 01:26:34,160 to see the occupants if you look at the 1784 01:26:40,260 --> 01:26:36,260 general categories just like if you look 1785 01:26:42,910 --> 01:26:40,270 at these sort of winged creatures 1786 01:26:44,860 --> 01:26:42,920 generally they fall into categories you 1787 01:26:46,930 --> 01:26:44,870 start to get down into specifics and 1788 01:26:50,380 --> 01:26:46,940 there's all kinds of differences that 1789 01:26:52,810 --> 01:26:50,390 seem to go beyond just perception I mean 1790 01:26:55,930 --> 01:26:52,820 there's if you go back into I'm trying 1791 01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:55,940 to think is it South America the he 1792 01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,130 calls or whatever there's the the belief 1793 01:27:02,530 --> 01:27:00,320 of these little winged creatures that 1794 01:27:04,270 --> 01:27:02,540 have some kind of a like a jet pack or 1795 01:27:06,130 --> 01:27:04,280 something on their back that oh they 1796 01:27:08,980 --> 01:27:06,140 grab children and so forth I mean 1797 01:27:11,710 --> 01:27:08,990 there's all kinds of these these legends 1798 01:27:14,230 --> 01:27:11,720 and beliefs of some kind of a winged 1799 01:27:15,790 --> 01:27:14,240 humanoid let me let me ask you this in 1800 01:27:19,060 --> 01:27:15,800 the two minutes we have left before the 1801 01:27:20,650 --> 01:27:19,070 double switch is upon us now these this 1802 01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:20,660 guy like the one guy who looked at his 1803 01:27:23,620 --> 01:27:21,710 window and the thing that's kind of 1804 01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:23,630 perched on a telephone pole right right 1805 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:24,080 right 1806 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:27,290 and he's shot at it yes okay and then 1807 01:27:32,260 --> 01:27:30,650 you climb down and bound it away well my 1808 01:27:34,090 --> 01:27:32,270 question is is this and I know there's 1809 01:27:36,220 --> 01:27:34,100 no good answer to this but I always 1810 01:27:37,060 --> 01:27:36,230 think what was he doing up there in the 1811 01:27:40,660 --> 01:27:37,070 first place 1812 01:27:44,590 --> 01:27:40,670 okay and he was okay I have an answer 1813 01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,600 and when did he go okay so you know so 1814 01:27:49,090 --> 01:27:47,120 why do you I mean if these people if 1815 01:27:50,980 --> 01:27:49,100 these beings come from let's say another 1816 01:27:53,230 --> 01:27:50,990 universe or someplace we don't know that 1817 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,240 kind of overlaps into eyes till they 1818 01:27:57,310 --> 01:27:55,280 feel lost you know what I mean are they 1819 01:28:00,490 --> 01:27:57,320 lost and then somehow they get back to 1820 01:28:02,260 --> 01:28:00,500 their own universe or kicked out of 1821 01:28:03,670 --> 01:28:02,270 their tribe or something all right well 1822 01:28:04,510 --> 01:28:03,680 they were only here temporarily if you 1823 01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:04,520 know what I mean they show up 1824 01:28:08,290 --> 01:28:07,310 sporadically like that yeah yeah even if 1825 01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:08,300 there's something from the so-called 1826 01:28:14,110 --> 01:28:10,990 super spectrum you know from the their 1827 01:28:16,810 --> 01:28:14,120 transmogrification zuv energy that are 1828 01:28:18,430 --> 01:28:16,820 temporary constructs or whatever or if 1829 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:18,440 they're actually physically real and 1830 01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:20,570 they pop in from somewhere else yeah it 1831 01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:22,640 does it seems like they're out of place 1832 01:28:26,650 --> 01:28:24,710 it's right you know why the hell is 1833 01:28:28,630 --> 01:28:26,660 everybody shooting at me you know and 1834 01:28:30,580 --> 01:28:28,640 this thing was shot at a lot of times 1835 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:30,590 that's another thing that's funny people 1836 01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,090 shoot at these things and nothing 1837 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:33,920 happens oh by the way what they did but 1838 01:28:39,130 --> 01:28:35,930 it was physical enough that the the one 1839 01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:39,140 doctor he made a cast of a three-toed 1840 01:28:46,370 --> 01:28:41,310 print oh wow 1841 01:28:50,330 --> 01:28:46,380 yeah interesting so the thing any I see 1842 01:28:54,110 --> 01:28:50,340 any photographs at all I know there was 1843 01:28:55,850 --> 01:28:54,120 just right there was nothing ever ever 1844 01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:55,860 back then I don't know what kind what 1845 01:29:01,100 --> 01:28:58,560 state photography was in in 1903 but it 1846 01:29:03,260 --> 01:29:01,110 probably would have been much harder to 1847 01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,270 run after something hey switch real 1848 01:29:09,140 --> 01:29:05,280 quick what is the topic of a double 1849 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:09,150 switch the topic of double switch yeah 1850 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:11,370 the next segment coming up the next 1851 01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:19,770 segment coming up is I forget we're 1852 01:29:24,260 --> 01:29:22,500 going to what we should do though is 1853 01:29:27,230 --> 01:29:24,270 before we go up to this commercial break 1854 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:27,240 I can't let this go by I mean we're 1855 01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,650 talking to people in the future but 1856 01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:30,420 yesterday one of the greatest musicians 1857 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:32,040 I might have been in rock and roll 1858 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:35,850 passed away Tom Petty is someone you 1859 01:29:42,410 --> 01:29:38,730 know more one more crappy thing on a 1860 01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:42,420 tragic tragic we I mean you ain't can 1861 01:29:47,780 --> 01:29:45,120 but the thing is is that you know 1862 01:29:49,490 --> 01:29:47,790 someone actually you know game a little 1863 01:29:51,290 --> 01:29:49,500 bit of a eulogy last night while I was 1864 01:29:54,170 --> 01:29:51,300 driving home and I had heard that you 1865 01:29:56,090 --> 01:29:54,180 know things might have you know not been 1866 01:29:58,190 --> 01:29:56,100 too good to him and then you know that's 1867 01:30:00,080 --> 01:29:58,200 turned out no but they said you know 1868 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:00,090 when you saw those guys play they 1869 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:01,530 weren't jumping around the stage you 1870 01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,370 know what I mean they weren't running 1871 01:30:05,660 --> 01:30:04,080 back and forth that making idiots 1872 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:05,670 themselves they used to just stand there 1873 01:30:10,970 --> 01:30:07,770 and play and was talk about a tight band 1874 01:30:13,190 --> 01:30:10,980 Wow and he preserved a lot of music he's 1875 01:30:14,810 --> 01:30:13,200 reserved that kind of jangly 12 string 1876 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:14,820 guitar stuff one you know what I mean 1877 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:15,810 yeah I do 1878 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:19,050 I left him in all his incarnations with 1879 01:30:24,170 --> 01:30:21,090 the band solo with the Traveling 1880 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:24,180 Wilburys yeah yeah and I think if you 1881 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:25,770 really want to have a special moment 1882 01:30:30,170 --> 01:30:29,130 with him go on YouTube they did I can't 1883 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:30,180 remember the other artists that were 1884 01:30:33,530 --> 01:30:32,010 with him because frankly I'm a little 1885 01:30:38,570 --> 01:30:33,540 bit upset with everything that's gone on 1886 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:38,580 you get a gray one - Roy yep it was just 1887 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:40,650 great they did a great thing on stage 1888 01:30:47,390 --> 01:30:43,530 and that should be planned for him yeah 1889 01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:47,400 he opens with Bob Dylan - 12 x 8 or 1890 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:51,870 above Dylan and and there was a time you 1891 01:30:55,689 --> 01:30:54,170 know when he you know was around for 1892 01:30:57,340 --> 01:30:55,699 ideas that they were like the only rock 1893 01:30:59,169 --> 01:30:57,350 band on the radio you know what I mean 1894 01:31:00,820 --> 01:30:59,179 they were like they kind of kept the 1895 01:31:04,090 --> 01:31:00,830 going until Rock kinda came back in 1896 01:31:05,709 --> 01:31:04,100 fashion so too bad Tom Petty I always 1897 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:05,719 wanted to see them but I'll have the 1898 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:07,010 opportunity now that's why you get me go 1899 01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,610 see them 1900 01:31:11,229 --> 01:31:08,960 you know while they're still around 1901 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:11,239 because these guys are you know he got 1902 01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:15,650 crap for that song lost deejay yes he 1903 01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:17,510 gave him a hard time on that side not 1904 01:31:26,169 --> 01:31:22,960 dessert anyway to fly to fly was good 1905 01:31:27,970 --> 01:31:26,179 last dance last dance for Mary Jane was 1906 01:31:30,250 --> 01:31:27,980 one of the best songs ever man that's 1907 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:30,260 one of the best rides duet with Stevie 1908 01:31:35,459 --> 01:31:30,770 Nicks 1909 01:31:39,130 --> 01:31:35,469 yeah stop this time around what was it 1910 01:31:41,169 --> 01:31:39,140 draggin my heart around okay all right 1911 01:31:43,150 --> 01:31:41,179 so listen what we're going to do is take 1912 01:31:47,709 --> 01:31:43,160 a commercial break here and then the 1913 01:31:50,890 --> 01:31:47,719 devil switch will be on mellow mystery 1914 01:31:52,450 --> 01:31:50,900 yes so why don't we take an end now and 1915 01:31:54,130 --> 01:31:52,460 you're listening to Mack Moniz 1916 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:54,140 military-style show here on the distant 1917 01:32:01,030 --> 01:31:55,730 Thunder radio network we will be right 1918 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:01,040 back after this America has lost world 1919 01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:03,770 war three terrorists control the 1920 01:32:13,069 --> 01:32:06,910 countryside air pirates rule our skies 1921 01:32:18,569 --> 01:32:15,930 but just when it seems like freedom is a 1922 01:32:21,060 --> 01:32:18,579 thing of the past a new hero emerges 1923 01:32:23,370 --> 01:32:21,070 from the ashes a true American who 1924 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:23,380 stands up for what's right a fighter 1925 01:32:27,149 --> 01:32:26,050 pilot who could defeat any fault anytime 1926 01:32:35,220 --> 01:32:27,159 anywhere 1927 01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:37,710 follow the adventures of hawk hunter the 1928 01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:40,510 wingman as he fights to revive the idea 1929 01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:43,150 of america through 17 action-packed 1930 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:45,550 books hunter battles all those who would 1931 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:48,610 tread on Old Glory in the air on the sea 1932 01:32:53,250 --> 01:32:51,130 or on the ground his dream is to put the 1933 01:32:56,730 --> 01:32:53,260 United States back together again and 1934 01:32:58,380 --> 01:32:56,740 get laid a lot while he's doing it for 1935 01:33:01,620 --> 01:32:58,390 some of the greatest aerial action 1936 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:01,630 you'll ever experience strap in and hold 1937 01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:05,890 on wingman 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--> 01:40:23,990 it's hard to clutch it - your breast can 1995 01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:26,850 cover okay kind of a large format not 1996 01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:30,090 quite the the coffee table sighs smells 1997 01:40:35,150 --> 01:40:32,820 kinda big all right so it's big like he 1998 01:40:36,590 --> 01:40:35,160 is I don't want to get into any stray 1999 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:36,600 territory here but what's it gonna be 2000 01:40:40,700 --> 01:40:38,850 like reading it in the bed if you know I 2001 01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:40,710 mean oh man is it bad like kind of 2002 01:40:45,260 --> 01:40:42,360 everything I did is look at the pictures 2003 01:40:46,830 --> 01:40:45,270 yeah okay all right Oh some good bunch 2004 01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:46,840 of box of Kleenex that's what it sounds 2005 01:41:05,930 --> 01:40:59,180 down so then we have a computer glitch 2006 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:05,940 in the rimshot so just imagine close 2007 01:41:12,740 --> 01:41:10,530 that's another show there my friend Coco 2008 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:12,750 is gonna be joining us later on from a 2009 01:41:17,780 --> 01:41:15,210 undisclosed location he's remote tonight 2010 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:17,790 and he likes to sing but he'll be on the 2011 01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:20,010 wing with us soon another thing that he 2012 01:41:24,290 --> 01:41:22,110 likes to say so what we're gonna do 2013 01:41:27,710 --> 01:41:24,300 though on the phone with us though is 2014 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:27,720 oh I should introduce the guest in our 2015 01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:30,570 studio sitting in with us tonight this 2016 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:32,610 is due to popular demand believe it or 2017 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:41,570 the kid is a glutton for punishment yeah 2018 01:41:49,220 --> 01:41:43,650 sure something here that or he's hungry 2019 01:41:56,750 --> 01:41:49,230 I can find undisclosed locations Coco 2020 01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:56,760 yes right the knock at the door so on 2021 01:42:01,460 --> 01:41:59,280 the phone that's save us this with your 2022 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:01,470 Reno Steve what I just saved hundreds of 2023 01:42:05,690 --> 01:42:03,810 dollars by switching to Geico I'm so 2024 01:42:07,730 --> 01:42:05,700 happy I feel like I can fly 2025 01:42:08,780 --> 01:42:07,740 disclaimer you will not be able to fly 2026 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:08,790 by switching to Geico 2027 01:42:11,210 --> 01:42:10,050 this is against the laws of physics and 2028 01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:11,220 nature if you find yourself flying 2029 01:42:14,090 --> 01:42:12,510 please seek professional and/or medical 2030 01:42:15,650 --> 01:42:14,100 help immediately in the unlikely event 2031 01:42:16,879 --> 01:42:15,660 you find yourself lying you might be a 2032 01:42:18,890 --> 01:42:16,889 superhero or 2033 01:42:20,419 --> 01:42:18,900 or a superhero named Paige woman who was 2034 01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:20,429 bitten by a radioactive pigeon if you 2035 01:42:23,300 --> 01:42:22,110 are indeed bid woman Geico retains all 2036 01:42:24,979 --> 01:42:23,310 licensing publishing rights in the event 2037 01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:24,989 pits woman the movie becomes a top 2038 01:42:30,379 --> 01:42:27,030 grossing Hollywood blockbuster Geico 15 2039 01:42:32,060 --> 01:42:30,389 minutes could save you 15% or more but 2040 01:42:34,490 --> 01:42:32,070 up there in the bowl of flakes Battle 2041 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:34,500 Creek Michigan how you doing miss ritchi 2042 01:42:38,450 --> 01:42:36,570 well you know I'm doing so good that 2043 01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:38,460 they actually had to blood test me to 2044 01:42:42,020 --> 01:42:39,710 make sure that I didn't have any 2045 01:42:43,939 --> 01:42:42,030 substances in my bloodstream before you 2046 01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:43,949 know illegal illegal one why I'm gonna 2047 01:42:50,060 --> 01:42:45,360 have to talk to my gotta go get the rim 2048 01:42:53,780 --> 01:42:50,070 shot that's good huh we're not talking 2049 01:42:55,550 --> 01:42:53,790 about substances are not quite legal yet 2050 01:42:57,260 --> 01:42:55,560 but I'm pretty close to him there you go 2051 01:43:00,500 --> 01:42:57,270 no they were just suspicious that's all 2052 01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,510 because I was doing so good good so 2053 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:02,639 would he get going for us tonight well 2054 01:43:08,990 --> 01:43:05,010 tonight now this is a really bizarre 2055 01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:09,000 case in the annals of UFO literature and 2056 01:43:14,030 --> 01:43:10,710 the first part of this the source is 2057 01:43:18,890 --> 01:43:14,040 from the flying saucer review April 67 2058 01:43:22,879 --> 01:43:18,900 now the flying saucer review review oh 2059 01:43:24,290 --> 01:43:22,889 yes I started written the drive and went 2060 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:24,300 for decades it was actually a very 2061 01:43:29,180 --> 01:43:27,090 excellent Journal and the good news is 2062 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:29,190 that you can get these now for a lot 2063 01:43:34,910 --> 01:43:32,610 $2.99 each on Kindle Amanda Ashe Stanton 2064 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:34,920 has made them available through Amazon 2065 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:38,090 so it's a phenomenal resource of 2066 01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:40,530 information from way back but anyway 2067 01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:43,110 this is a really bizarre case and it was 2068 01:43:52,939 --> 01:43:49,199 August 20th 1966 on a hill called Morrow 2069 01:43:53,660 --> 01:43:52,949 - victim at Nita Roy near Rio de Janeiro 2070 01:43:55,419 --> 01:43:53,670 uh-huh 2071 01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:55,429 as close as I can get to some of these 2072 01:44:03,290 --> 01:44:00,719 Portuguese associations okay a boy named 2073 01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,300 Manuel was looking for his kite and on 2074 01:44:07,879 --> 01:44:05,280 this hill he discovers the bodies of two 2075 01:44:10,129 --> 01:44:07,889 men lying on their back as if they're 2076 01:44:12,530 --> 01:44:10,139 kind of stretched out as if asleep but 2077 01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:12,540 they're very dead and there's no sign of 2078 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:14,730 a struggle and the strange thing was 2079 01:44:21,550 --> 01:44:17,250 this it was that each one had a lead 2080 01:44:25,339 --> 01:44:21,560 mask laying next to their heads so and 2081 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:25,349 of course he gets the local police they 2082 01:44:28,970 --> 01:44:27,330 found pollute monody preliminary 2083 01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,980 investigation didn't reveal much there 2084 01:44:33,950 --> 01:44:30,000 was some 2085 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:33,960 it including there was like some simple 2086 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:36,210 electrical formulas the instructions 2087 01:44:41,630 --> 01:44:38,130 said something like take one capsule 2088 01:44:44,450 --> 01:44:41,640 after lunch Sunday now Wednesday take 2089 01:44:45,770 --> 01:44:44,460 one after bedtime be at arranged place 2090 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:45,780 at 16:30 2091 01:44:51,770 --> 01:44:49,770 take capsules at 18:30 so the police 2092 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:51,780 come involved maybe they identify the 2093 01:44:56,750 --> 01:44:54,210 bodies and begin to piece together some 2094 01:45:01,010 --> 01:44:56,760 of the some of their movements that was 2095 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:01,020 Miguel Jose Vianna 32 and Manuel Tierra 2096 01:45:06,470 --> 01:45:03,210 de Cruz 34 2097 01:45:08,330 --> 01:45:06,480 both men were married had families they 2098 01:45:11,420 --> 01:45:08,340 were both Electronics Technicians from 2099 01:45:13,250 --> 01:45:11,430 the town of Campos now the story they 2100 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,260 told they took off they took a bus to 2101 01:45:17,330 --> 01:45:15,360 this area from Campos the story they 2102 01:45:21,470 --> 01:45:17,340 told their friends and family was that 2103 01:45:25,070 --> 01:45:21,480 they were going off to saw Paulo to buy 2104 01:45:26,330 --> 01:45:25,080 a car and electronics equipment okay so 2105 01:45:29,330 --> 01:45:26,340 they arrived at their destination on 2106 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:29,340 August 17th there was no record of them 2107 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:30,810 buying a car or any kind of equipment 2108 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:33,570 after the investigation now after the 2109 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:36,330 bodies were examined they found no if 2110 01:45:41,450 --> 01:45:38,130 they again found no evidence of violence 2111 01:45:43,340 --> 01:45:41,460 and a check for poison they couldn't 2112 01:45:45,190 --> 01:45:43,350 find anything there either they 2113 01:45:47,810 --> 01:45:45,200 considered other possibilities like 2114 01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:47,820 smuggling as some kind of smuggling 2115 01:45:51,890 --> 01:45:49,830 operation or drug transaction gone bad 2116 01:45:55,070 --> 01:45:51,900 they couldn't couldn't find any evidence 2117 01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:55,080 of either and as they as the 2118 01:45:59,090 --> 01:45:57,210 investigation continues they find out 2119 01:46:00,770 --> 01:45:59,100 there was a third man involved with a 2120 01:46:04,450 --> 01:46:00,780 dead man he was kind of an assistant 2121 01:46:07,210 --> 01:46:04,460 mm-hmm LC Gomez was their assistance and 2122 01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:07,220 he said that these two men were 2123 01:46:15,110 --> 01:46:11,520 spiritual scientists now at this point 2124 01:46:17,630 --> 01:46:15,120 in time I guess spiritualism was kind of 2125 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:17,640 a big thing in Brazil and a lot of these 2126 01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:20,850 technicians were a part of it these guys 2127 01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:23,760 attended many seances they were part of 2128 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:26,400 he said some secret society with unknown 2129 01:46:37,150 --> 01:46:29,250 aims mm-hmm now can you remind us what 2130 01:46:42,740 --> 01:46:37,160 year this is again 66 okay okay now the 2131 01:46:43,970 --> 01:46:42,750 according to to LC the the goal of these 2132 01:46:46,580 --> 01:46:43,980 two guys was to commune 2133 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:46,590 with people from Mars okay all right now 2134 01:46:51,140 --> 01:46:49,410 Elsie had had helped the two men with 2135 01:46:53,540 --> 01:46:51,150 some of their experiments including one 2136 01:46:57,230 --> 01:46:53,550 that resulted in an explosion on June 2137 01:46:59,120 --> 01:46:57,240 13th at a de fauna beach okay okay when 2138 01:47:01,130 --> 01:46:59,130 when he arrived on the scene these guys 2139 01:47:03,140 --> 01:47:01,140 were already doing their experiment he 2140 01:47:05,510 --> 01:47:03,150 said he saw an intensely luminous object 2141 01:47:07,370 --> 01:47:05,520 come down close to the shoreline then it 2142 01:47:09,610 --> 01:47:07,380 began to rise and in a blinding flash 2143 01:47:11,780 --> 01:47:09,620 Fudd was followed by an explosion and 2144 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:11,790 some of the witnesses there claimed they 2145 01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:14,210 saw a flying saucer fall into the sea 2146 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:17,850 this is when the the Brazilian naval and 2147 01:47:22,010 --> 01:47:20,610 Air Force intelligence services began to 2148 01:47:24,260 --> 01:47:22,020 take an interest like what the heck is 2149 01:47:25,730 --> 01:47:24,270 going on okay now it comes out it's very 2150 01:47:27,770 --> 01:47:25,740 very confusing because it comes out 2151 01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:27,780 later according to relatives their 2152 01:47:32,630 --> 01:47:30,210 relatives that the the the explosions on 2153 01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:32,640 the beach were just pipe bombs so how 2154 01:47:36,940 --> 01:47:34,560 they got all the drama of a flying 2155 01:47:39,500 --> 01:47:36,950 saucer and these big flashes of light 2156 01:47:43,190 --> 01:47:39,510 falling into the sea we don't really 2157 01:47:45,530 --> 01:47:43,200 know the day before on June 12th 2158 01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:45,540 the Navy monitoring service had 2159 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,490 intercepted a strange conversation 2160 01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:49,520 between three ham operators 2161 01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:52,800 unfortunately the conversation was was 2162 01:47:58,970 --> 01:47:54,690 secret but they said they were using 2163 01:48:01,610 --> 01:47:58,980 false identifications like a CK j22 CK 2164 01:48:03,890 --> 01:48:01,620 j21 and so forth which is completely 2165 01:48:05,780 --> 01:48:03,900 bogus those guys yes now they 2166 01:48:07,940 --> 01:48:05,790 investigated Miguel's workshop at his 2167 01:48:10,130 --> 01:48:07,950 house and they found out that these lead 2168 01:48:12,650 --> 01:48:10,140 masks were apparently homemade they 2169 01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:12,660 found fragments of lead that matched the 2170 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:14,760 masks that where they found the dead 2171 01:48:18,740 --> 01:48:16,650 bodies mm-hmm they also found a book on 2172 01:48:20,990 --> 01:48:18,750 what that was called scientific 2173 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:21,000 spiritualism and I wish they had you 2174 01:48:24,710 --> 01:48:23,010 know listed the source so that to see if 2175 01:48:26,750 --> 01:48:24,720 I could have found it in English but no 2176 01:48:28,580 --> 01:48:26,760 luck there right they discovered some 2177 01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:28,590 passages in this book marked in the book 2178 01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:31,050 that mentions using lead masks when 2179 01:48:37,100 --> 01:48:33,330 spirits appear to protect against 2180 01:48:38,690 --> 01:48:37,110 intense luminosity Wow yeah now 2181 01:48:40,340 --> 01:48:38,700 unfortunately how about a lid pair of 2182 01:48:42,530 --> 01:48:40,350 shorts still fits that's right you might 2183 01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:42,540 want to protect lead protect possibly 2184 01:48:46,370 --> 01:48:44,130 they had led shorts they wouldn't still 2185 01:48:47,630 --> 01:48:46,380 be alive today I gotta say switch let me 2186 01:48:50,810 --> 01:48:47,640 just interrupt you for a second because 2187 01:48:52,430 --> 01:48:50,820 I want to get the guests take on this 2188 01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:52,440 what do you think's going on here around 2189 01:49:04,679 --> 01:48:56,130 little blind kid basically I did a great 2190 01:49:19,259 --> 01:49:06,569 well how about the led mass what was 2191 01:49:20,969 --> 01:49:19,269 that about any idea there's an 2192 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:20,979 explanation for everything the kid went 2193 01:49:27,929 --> 01:49:23,050 on to write the Opera you know - right - 2194 01:49:29,429 --> 01:49:27,939 probably okay I just try to give the kid 2195 01:49:30,869 --> 01:49:29,439 whatever he wants you'd only mean for 2196 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:30,879 busy you know frankly it kind of creeps 2197 01:49:34,679 --> 01:49:32,530 me out the guy was getting a let out a 2198 01:49:36,209 --> 01:49:34,689 long time ago mr. first mistake is you 2199 01:49:39,839 --> 01:49:36,219 don't invite him in the door you know 2200 01:49:41,159 --> 01:49:39,849 well you know it kind of forces way okay 2201 01:49:43,290 --> 01:49:41,169 the plot thickens 2202 01:49:46,199 --> 01:49:43,300 August 25th at the Brazilian Journal 2203 01:49:48,089 --> 01:49:46,209 there's a report of a Senora gross in de 2204 01:49:51,869 --> 01:49:48,099 barber Barbosa 2205 01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:51,879 oh mama no Eugene oh yes Sosa the lady 2206 01:49:55,349 --> 01:49:53,320 with the longest name Wow 2207 01:49:58,139 --> 01:49:55,359 she was a lady of high stature and high 2208 01:50:01,080 --> 01:49:58,149 credibility she saw a UFO over that hill 2209 01:50:02,250 --> 01:50:01,090 the same night that these men were 2210 01:50:04,739 --> 01:50:02,260 supposed to been there the first night 2211 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:04,749 they were there others confirmed UFO 2212 01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:07,090 sightings in the same area by the way 2213 01:50:11,429 --> 01:50:09,280 the the handwriting on these these notes 2214 01:50:13,949 --> 01:50:11,439 that they found were determined not to 2215 01:50:17,909 --> 01:50:13,959 be then that of the men a third party 2216 01:50:20,759 --> 01:50:17,919 had written those notes okay okay okay 2217 01:50:22,529 --> 01:50:20,769 the plot thickens more okay good the 2218 01:50:24,750 --> 01:50:22,539 investigation uncovered another 2219 01:50:27,330 --> 01:50:24,760 mysterious death back in 1962 another 2220 01:50:29,609 --> 01:50:27,340 man dies of unknown causes with a lead 2221 01:50:33,089 --> 01:50:29,619 mask by his head at a different Hill 2222 01:50:35,099 --> 01:50:33,099 nearby so that's they you know they 2223 01:50:36,509 --> 01:50:35,109 couldn't find out on that and then you 2224 01:50:38,250 --> 01:50:36,519 might have think you have a question but 2225 01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:38,260 it's gonna plotz gonna really thicken 2226 01:50:43,319 --> 01:50:40,719 when Jacques de Molay intercede oh yeah 2227 01:50:45,959 --> 01:50:43,329 go ahead now he's a really good you know 2228 01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:45,969 author writer looks into a lot of these 2229 01:50:49,889 --> 01:50:47,199 things come up with a lot of really good 2230 01:50:53,009 --> 01:50:49,899 theories that actually tested by him 2231 01:50:54,419 --> 01:50:53,019 well in his book confrontations which 2232 01:50:57,419 --> 01:50:54,429 came out we know quite a bit late after 2233 01:50:59,939 --> 01:50:57,429 his first few books this is in 1980 2234 01:51:02,250 --> 01:50:59,949 there's 24 years after the original 2235 01:51:04,949 --> 01:51:02,260 event he he went there himself with his 2236 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:04,959 wife there was a police detective with 2237 01:51:09,299 --> 01:51:07,090 them that specialized in unsolved cases 2238 01:51:11,020 --> 01:51:09,309 there was a local journalist and the 2239 01:51:13,209 --> 01:51:11,030 first adult to find the body 2240 01:51:15,879 --> 01:51:13,219 so they you know they just kind of 2241 01:51:18,129 --> 01:51:15,889 rehash some of the some of the same 2242 01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:18,139 evidence I guess the the body is this a 2243 01:51:21,850 --> 01:51:19,280 little gruesome we're a little bit 2244 01:51:23,410 --> 01:51:21,860 pinkish pods possibly burned but they 2245 01:51:25,839 --> 01:51:23,420 had been decomposing so they couldn't 2246 01:51:28,649 --> 01:51:25,849 really tell much they even they even 2247 01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:28,659 really after this Pat happened they 2248 01:51:32,770 --> 01:51:30,770 reexamine to see if they could find 2249 01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:32,780 anything because of so mysterious but 2250 01:51:39,550 --> 01:51:36,650 they didn't find anything else now these 2251 01:51:41,379 --> 01:51:39,560 guys were like I say technicians you 2252 01:51:44,169 --> 01:51:41,389 know just basically they put up TV 2253 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:44,179 antennas and repeaters and but they kept 2254 01:51:48,399 --> 01:51:45,770 talking to everybody about this great 2255 01:51:50,649 --> 01:51:48,409 experiment this final great experiment 2256 01:51:53,709 --> 01:51:50,659 they were going to do and here's here's 2257 01:51:56,350 --> 01:51:53,719 more of this note jockle a reveals this 2258 01:51:59,649 --> 01:51:56,360 when the note said meet me at the 2259 01:52:01,959 --> 01:51:59,659 designated spot at 4:30 p.m. and just 2260 01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:01,969 the capsule after desired effect is 2261 01:52:07,930 --> 01:52:05,599 produced protect half your face with the 2262 01:52:10,450 --> 01:52:07,940 lead masks wait for the pre-arranged 2263 01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:10,460 signal now what the heck does that mean 2264 01:52:14,530 --> 01:52:12,320 well a couple of witnesses came forward 2265 01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:14,540 so they saw thought they saw two men 2266 01:52:18,490 --> 01:52:16,880 accompanying them in a jeep to the foot 2267 01:52:20,620 --> 01:52:18,500 of the hill that night but that was 2268 01:52:23,020 --> 01:52:20,630 never confirmed another group of 2269 01:52:25,629 --> 01:52:23,030 Brazilians spiritualists claimed to be 2270 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:25,639 in contact with beings from Jupiter and 2271 01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:27,530 they claimed from their channeling that 2272 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:30,310 what happened was when the UFO came down 2273 01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:33,530 Manuela Miguel ran toward the object and 2274 01:52:38,530 --> 01:52:36,320 we're we're zapped by the I don't know 2275 01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:38,540 the aura of the UFO or whatever but of 2276 01:52:41,530 --> 01:52:39,920 course there's absolutely no evidence 2277 01:52:45,149 --> 01:52:41,540 that they were running they were just 2278 01:52:47,319 --> 01:52:45,159 lying peacefully on the hill dead then 2279 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:47,329 Jacques Vallee brought I'll go ahead you 2280 01:52:49,780 --> 01:52:48,290 want to say something no I was just 2281 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:49,790 gonna say you know I wondered if they 2282 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:51,770 were in the ever see the movie Eyes Wide 2283 01:52:56,890 --> 01:52:54,530 Shut yep and they come into that body at 2284 01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:56,900 the ending I'll have iron mask on like I 2285 01:53:06,350 --> 01:53:01,520 kid you've seen that movie Nicole Kidman 2286 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:08,420 you know into her character please 2287 01:53:12,980 --> 01:53:11,370 stanley kubrick yeah he finally like 2288 01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:12,990 lost his mind and made that movie 2289 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:15,450 because you know he made so many great 2290 01:53:19,460 --> 01:53:17,370 movies I mean really great movies and 2291 01:53:20,150 --> 01:53:19,470 then I watched that yeah it wasn't 2292 01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:20,160 well-received 2293 01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,410 what the heck is this and in fact in it 2294 01:53:27,380 --> 01:53:25,440 Tom Cruise he must say at least two 2295 01:53:29,780 --> 01:53:27,390 dozen times which is why the movie he 2296 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:29,790 says I'm a doctor I'm a doctor so the 2297 01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,530 cab driver the Craig you know everyone 2298 01:53:36,110 --> 01:53:34,080 he runs into it's like everyone thinks 2299 01:53:37,550 --> 01:53:36,120 that Tom Cruise is just such a [\h__\h] you 2300 01:53:40,070 --> 01:53:37,560 know that they have to put that line in 2301 01:53:41,690 --> 01:53:40,080 there 20 times I'm a doctor I'm a doctor 2302 01:53:44,150 --> 01:53:41,700 you know like he's trying to convince 2303 01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:44,160 the audience but that that the reason 2304 01:53:49,250 --> 01:53:46,290 I'm just recently thinking about it was 2305 01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:49,260 on YouTube there was a clip with some of 2306 01:53:52,130 --> 01:53:50,610 the things that one of the people were 2307 01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:52,140 walking there's a party at the end where 2308 01:53:59,000 --> 01:53:54,150 it's like a swingers party I'm assuming 2309 01:54:01,220 --> 01:53:59,010 right like I could yeah I was invited 2310 01:54:03,710 --> 01:54:01,230 and one of the mass looks just like Bob 2311 01:54:05,690 --> 01:54:03,720 Hope someone said Bob Hope was part of 2312 01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:05,700 the Illuminati and this is Kubrick's way 2313 01:54:10,130 --> 01:54:08,310 of getting to them and so it's crazy so 2314 01:54:12,710 --> 01:54:10,140 anyway any evidence that these guys are 2315 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:12,720 actually going through they're extras in 2316 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:17,010 the movie or something well maybe when 2317 01:54:21,650 --> 01:54:19,770 they when they go up to the shock filet 2318 01:54:23,420 --> 01:54:21,660 and this new party goes up there things 2319 01:54:24,830 --> 01:54:23,430 are growing over quite a bit so he's 2320 01:54:26,510 --> 01:54:24,840 asking a lot of questions about how 2321 01:54:29,150 --> 01:54:26,520 things were there's that was an old 2322 01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:29,160 steak there which I gave him a reference 2323 01:54:35,630 --> 01:54:31,470 point to where the bodies had been 2324 01:54:37,250 --> 01:54:35,640 laying if and 24 years later nothing is 2325 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:37,260 growing in that same spot and where they 2326 01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:39,210 found the bodies Wow hmm 2327 01:54:44,030 --> 01:54:41,670 that's really so real mystery I think 2328 01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,040 they had something to do with you know 2329 01:54:48,230 --> 01:54:46,080 if you talk about spiritualism and in 2330 01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:48,240 seances and so forth I think probably 2331 01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:50,130 there was some channeling involved they 2332 01:54:53,450 --> 01:54:51,360 were probably getting messages from 2333 01:54:55,310 --> 01:54:53,460 somewhere now when you when you do that 2334 01:54:58,190 --> 01:54:55,320 when you get chant you you do channeling 2335 01:55:01,490 --> 01:54:58,200 from the space brothers or these things 2336 01:55:03,740 --> 01:55:01,500 whatever entities beware because yeah 2337 01:55:06,350 --> 01:55:03,750 the information may not be all that 2338 01:55:07,940 --> 01:55:06,360 sound what did they die of what was they 2339 01:55:09,410 --> 01:55:07,950 never they never even when they 2340 01:55:10,340 --> 01:55:09,420 reexamine they never could if they 2341 01:55:11,900 --> 01:55:10,350 couldn't find any 2342 01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:11,910 they just said a heart attack they 2343 01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,970 couldn't find any anything like they 2344 01:55:18,290 --> 01:55:16,320 check for poison you know all the 2345 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:18,300 obvious stuff and they couldn't find 2346 01:55:22,730 --> 01:55:20,370 nothing even after the second 2347 01:55:24,290 --> 01:55:22,740 time of going through examined the body 2348 01:55:25,730 --> 01:55:24,300 I think they died a fright they ever up 2349 01:55:42,670 --> 01:55:25,740 like that kid what are you saying that 2350 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:54,810 you 2351 01:55:58,080 --> 01:55:56,370 matters even talked about on the show 2352 01:56:00,840 --> 01:55:58,090 where they just found this guy in this 2353 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:00,850 English town and he's on the top on the 2354 01:56:05,580 --> 01:56:03,010 heap of junk in a junk guy like it's 2355 01:56:07,890 --> 01:56:05,590 just scraps about but way way way up 2356 01:56:09,420 --> 01:56:07,900 high okay and you know he's in a 2357 01:56:11,250 --> 01:56:09,430 business suit and stuff but he was dead 2358 01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:11,260 and he was just laying at the top of 2359 01:56:13,890 --> 01:56:11,800 this hill 2360 01:56:16,020 --> 01:56:13,900 you think he was put up there well they 2361 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:16,030 said if he was [\h__\h] he was dragged up 2362 01:56:20,670 --> 01:56:18,370 there okay because there was always shop 2363 01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:20,680 edges and stuff you know his the suit 2364 01:56:23,580 --> 01:56:22,090 would have been in bad shape he would 2365 01:56:24,810 --> 01:56:23,590 have been bleeding or whatever but it 2366 01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,820 looked like someone just like plugging 2367 01:56:28,350 --> 01:56:26,800 him down there you know and and they 2368 01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:28,360 didn't even know who he was I think you 2369 01:56:32,220 --> 01:56:29,530 know he was like a man without a country 2370 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:32,230 for a while so are you involved in that 2371 01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:53,890 there okay Wow recycled I guess so right 2372 01:56:59,370 --> 01:56:57,040 let this be a lesson children don't let 2373 01:57:01,320 --> 01:56:59,380 the black-eyed children in you have any 2374 01:57:04,170 --> 01:57:01,330 questions Steve for the young black eyed 2375 01:57:06,090 --> 01:57:04,180 Shulman right I've already overworked 2376 01:57:13,250 --> 01:57:06,100 talked him off enough I don't know my 2377 01:57:16,410 --> 01:57:13,260 daughter so they switch what's the 2378 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:16,420 what's the rigid residue of the big 2379 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:18,850 wingman your wingman conference is it 2380 01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:21,490 for the incipient one right come on man 2381 01:57:26,220 --> 01:57:23,410 conference down there in Point Pleasant 2382 01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:26,230 I mean shortly after I was I got had a 2383 01:57:30,090 --> 01:57:27,850 nice to our interview with rosemary 2384 01:57:32,430 --> 01:57:30,100 ellen guiley of strange dimensions radio 2385 01:57:34,710 --> 01:57:32,440 nice sassy on we had I've known rosemary 2386 01:57:37,170 --> 01:57:34,720 for several years and it was just like 2387 01:57:40,230 --> 01:57:37,180 continuing our conversation but it was a 2388 01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:40,240 Gris great two hours and I got a lot of 2389 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:42,520 good feedback than that in fact one of 2390 01:57:46,170 --> 01:57:43,810 my friends who is an engineer 2391 01:57:48,630 --> 01:57:46,180 and who's a bit skeptical of these 2392 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:48,640 things and said something like you know 2393 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:50,890 I looked up to you rosemary and you guys 2394 01:58:00,250 --> 01:57:53,050 didn't sound like crackpots at all 2395 01:58:06,340 --> 01:58:03,660 you know well that's good very very good 2396 01:58:07,780 --> 01:58:06,350 star was on the rise they want no I got 2397 01:58:09,220 --> 01:58:07,790 to keep an eye on this so I want to go 2398 01:58:11,310 --> 01:58:09,230 to autograph right you know what comes 2399 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:11,320 next it's gonna be you know what I mean 2400 01:58:16,900 --> 01:58:14,570 Steve a sin the seven sins okay wait 2401 01:58:20,770 --> 01:58:16,910 wait Steve's military x-files with his 2402 01:58:26,500 --> 01:58:20,780 lovable sidekick Mac no oh wow a coup 2403 01:58:28,090 --> 01:58:26,510 d'etat okay actually Emily and I as well 2404 01:58:30,190 --> 01:58:28,100 as many of the other Mossman regulars 2405 01:58:32,890 --> 01:58:30,200 will be attending the creature weekend 2406 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:32,900 in a couple weeks with Adam Davies so 2407 01:58:37,660 --> 01:58:34,970 there's a famous Bigfoot Yeti researcher 2408 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:37,670 for one yes Jeff Walmsley the guy that 2409 01:58:42,850 --> 01:58:39,890 runs the Mothman festival okay 2410 01:58:44,380 --> 01:58:42,860 and I might next week is next week ends 2411 01:58:48,820 --> 01:58:44,390 up on the air I might actually be going 2412 01:58:50,890 --> 01:58:48,830 to the van Meter visitor festival that's 2413 01:58:54,340 --> 01:58:50,900 this creature that was seen in Iowa van 2414 01:58:55,780 --> 01:58:54,350 Meter Iowa back in 1905 Wow now that's 2415 01:58:58,570 --> 01:58:55,790 up in the air and the creature weekend 2416 01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:58,580 isn't definite and actually the missus 2417 01:59:02,770 --> 01:59:00,320 and I will be attending that one uh-huh 2418 01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:02,780 Wow see how his date book is filling up 2419 01:59:06,550 --> 01:59:05,360 we've launched this guy okay you know 2420 01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:06,560 we're gonna be the new kids on the block 2421 01:59:12,070 --> 01:59:10,010 and he's ticklish uh don't worry mac-11 2422 01:59:15,340 --> 01:59:12,080 like here's the diva of all things 2423 01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:15,350 paranormal yeah okay alright but you 2424 01:59:21,550 --> 01:59:17,360 know the thing is is if he tries any of 2425 01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:21,560 that stuff we got our own little you got 2426 01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:25,610 it especially this one five three foot 2427 01:59:36,970 --> 01:59:27,920 eleven I'm gonna guess he'll know where 2428 01:59:39,460 --> 01:59:36,980 to find you see ya Steve Marino thank 2429 01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:39,470 you for joining us my pleasure what 2430 01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:40,610 that's a real there was a really cool 2431 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:43,940 story and you know just keep us on your 2432 01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:45,410 speed dial let us know where you going 2433 01:59:49,390 --> 01:59:47,360 because we'd like to to file a report 2434 01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:49,400 I will wherever you're like nothing out 2435 01:59:55,290 --> 02:00:02,040 [Laughter] 2436 02:00:07,690 --> 02:00:04,740 that means it's absolutely necessary 2437 02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:07,700 okay Steve Reno we will talk to you soon 2438 02:00:11,410 --> 02:00:10,010 thank you very much okay by the way 2439 02:00:15,060 --> 02:00:11,420 killed a black eye kid I live in 2440 02:00:17,860 --> 02:00:15,070 Sausalito do you go Sausalito 2441 02:00:20,860 --> 02:00:17,870 all right thanks guys that's rich 2442 02:00:23,260 --> 02:00:20,870 check you later be safe all right okay 2443 02:00:25,629 --> 02:00:23,270 there we go switch arenas story a rising 2444 02:00:27,189 --> 02:00:25,639 star yeah you know yes everywhere he'll 2445 02:00:28,660 --> 02:00:27,199 be the guy who kicks us out of the limo 2446 02:00:30,189 --> 02:00:28,670 you know and I mean like Dylan did you 2447 02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:30,199 know he was driving around I was pen to 2448 02:00:33,090 --> 02:00:31,370 me this time to get out